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Submit application on the date visa expires

Post by Hope145 » Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:19 pm

Hi guys,

Quick questions, thanks in advance for answering .

1) if I submit my application on the date my visa expires would it be an in time application?

2) God forbid that my application gets rejected with UKVI what I be able to go for AR and JR as per the date of submission?

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Re: Submit application on the date visa expires

Post by marcnath » Mon Aug 14, 2017 8:57 pm

Hope145 wrote:Hi guys,

Quick questions, thanks in advance for answering .

1) if I submit my application on the date my visa expires would it be an in time application?

2) God forbid that my application gets rejected with UKVI what I be able to go for AR and JR as per the date of submission?
1) As per the guideline - The date of application is the date of posting. Make sure you keep proof of posting. As long as you post on the last day of your Visa, then it will be in time application. But it is not a good idea to do it that close. If payment fails for some reason, the application will be rejected and you will then have to make an out of time application.

2) Not sure what the question is ....
My comments are in no way meant to be advisory. I have no professional knowledge of immigration. These are based on my own experience, convictions and personal interpretation of publicly available information.

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Re: Submit application on the date visa expires

Post by Hope145 » Mon Aug 14, 2017 10:15 pm

marcnath wrote:
Hope145 wrote:Hi guys,

Quick questions, thanks in advance for answering .

1) if I submit my application on the date my visa expires would it be an in time application?

2) God forbid that my application gets rejected with UKVI what I be able to go for AR and JR as per the date of submission?
1) As per the guideline - The date of application is the date of posting. Make sure you keep proof of posting. As long as you post on the last day of your Visa, then it will be in time application. But it is not a good idea to do it that close. If payment fails for some reason, the application will be rejected and you will then have to make an out of time application.

2) Not sure what the question is ....
Thanks. Not the best but it appears to be the safe option to meet 12months job creation requirement as one employee would be 52weeks a day before visa expiry, so looking to apply next day after 52weeks.
2) is really about the rights you get should your application be refused and you made an intime application. Exploring the pros of an in time application

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Re: Submit application on the date visa expires

Post by CR001 » Mon Aug 14, 2017 10:22 pm

2. You will likely get AR but this is only worthwhile if HO has made an error. If you are "winging it" hoping for the best knowing you don't quite meet the requirements then AR will also fail.

JR is outside of the Immigration rules and scope. You have no section 3c protection duing JR and you cannot work etc.

And you need deep pockets for JR, it is expensive.
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Re: Submit application on the date visa expires

Post by marcnath » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:27 pm

Hope145 wrote:
Thanks. Not the best but it appears to be the safe option to meet 12months job creation requirement as one employee would be 52weeks a day before visa expiry, so looking to apply next day after 52weeks.
You can always run the payroll couple of weeks before. You don't have to wait until the 52 weeks is actually completed- as long as you submit evidence for 52 weeks and 52 weeks would be completed within your grant period.
Hope145 wrote:2) is really about the rights you get should your application be refused and you made an intime application. Exploring the pros of an in time application
Well, there are no pros to an out of time application. Strictly speaking as per the rules even the 14 days need a good reason - so it is not automatic
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Re: Submit application on the date visa expires

Post by Hope145 » Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:22 am

marcnath wrote:
Hope145 wrote:
Thanks. Not the best but it appears to be the safe option to meet 12months job creation requirement as one employee would be 52weeks a day before visa expiry, so looking to apply next day after 52weeks.
You can always run the payroll couple of weeks before. You don't have to wait until the 52 weeks is actually completed- as long as you submit evidence for 52 weeks and 52 weeks would be completed within your grant period.

Thanks. Makes sense but was confused if UKVI says not lasted 52weeks on the date of application. Anyone did this and got visa?
Hope145 wrote:2) is really about the rights you get should your application be refused and you made an intime application. Exploring the pros of an in time application
Well, there are no pros to an out of time application. Strictly speaking as per the rules even the 14 days need a good reason - so it is not automatic

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Re: Submit application on the date visa expires

Post by marcnath » Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:19 am

Hope145 wrote:
marcnath wrote:
Hope145 wrote:
Thanks. Not the best but it appears to be the safe option to meet 12months job creation requirement as one employee would be 52weeks a day before visa expiry, so looking to apply next day after 52weeks.
You can always run the payroll couple of weeks before. You don't have to wait until the 52 weeks is actually completed- as long as you submit evidence for 52 weeks and 52 weeks would be completed within your grant period.

Thanks. Makes sense but was confused if UKVI says not lasted 52weeks on the date of application. Anyone did this and got visa?
Hope145 wrote:2) is really about the rights you get should your application be refused and you made an intime application. Exploring the pros of an in time application
Well, there are no pros to an out of time application. Strictly speaking as per the rules even the 14 days need a good reason - so it is not automatic
The criteria is that the jobs should have been created during the period of leave, not before the date of application.
My comments are in no way meant to be advisory. I have no professional knowledge of immigration. These are based on my own experience, convictions and personal interpretation of publicly available information.

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Re: Submit application on the date visa expires

Post by Hope145 » Tue Aug 15, 2017 8:21 am

marcnath wrote:
Hope145 wrote:
marcnath wrote:
Hope145 wrote:
Thanks. Not the best but it appears to be the safe option to meet 12months job creation requirement as one employee would be 52weeks a day before visa expiry, so looking to apply next day after 52weeks.
You can always run the payroll couple of weeks before. You don't have to wait until the 52 weeks is actually completed- as long as you submit evidence for 52 weeks and 52 weeks would be completed within your grant period.

Thanks. Makes sense but was confused if UKVI says not lasted 52weeks on the date of application. Anyone did this and got visa?
Hope145 wrote:2) is really about the rights you get should your application be refused and you made an intime application. Exploring the pros of an in time application
Well, there are no pros to an out of time application. Strictly speaking as per the rules even the 14 days need a good reason - so it is not automatic
The criteria is that the jobs should have been created during the period of leave, not before the date of application.
Good point! Thank you.

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