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Spouse Visa Expiring Soon

Post by Ciwan » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:53 pm

Hello all

My wife and I live in Yorkshire, UK. I am a British Citizen in full-time employment and she is a Syrian citizen on a spouse visa. We have one baby daughter too.

My wife was issued her spouse visa in February 2015. This expires in November 2017.

I am confused on what needs to happen now. Do I renew the spouse visa? or do I apply for leave to remain? Can you please tell me the forms that I need to fill and the costs associated. Are there any special requirements?

Any help and advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you

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Re: Spouse Visa Expiring Soon

Post by CR001 » Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:00 pm

Is there a reason you have registered a new username when you already have one, which you logged into today at 4.21pm?

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Re: Spouse Visa Expiring Soon

Post by Wanderer » Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:55 pm

Ciwan wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:53 pm
Hello all

My wife and I live in Yorkshire, UK. I am a British Citizen in full-time employment and she is a Syrian citizen on a spouse visa. We have one baby daughter too.

My wife was issued her spouse visa in February 2015. This expires in November 2017.

I am confused on what needs to happen now. Do I renew the spouse visa? or do I apply for leave to remain? Can you please tell me the forms that I need to fill and the costs associated. Are there any special requirements?

Any help and advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you
Dates don't stack up. FLR(M) is 2.5 years....
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Re: Spouse Visa Expiring Soon

Post by Casa » Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:35 pm

Wanderer wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:55 pm
Ciwan wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:53 pm
Hello all

My wife and I live in Yorkshire, UK. I am a British Citizen in full-time employment and she is a Syrian citizen on a spouse visa. We have one baby daughter too.

My wife was issued her spouse visa in February 2015. This expires in November 2017.

I am confused on what needs to happen now. Do I renew the spouse visa? or do I apply for leave to remain? Can you please tell me the forms that I need to fill and the costs associated. Are there any special requirements?

Any help and advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you
Dates don't stack up. FLR(M) is 2.5 years....
The entry visa is issued for 33 months...
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Re: Spouse Visa Expiring Soon

Post by Ciwan » Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:59 am

CR001 wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:00 pm
Is there a reason you have registered a new username when you already have one, which you logged into today at 4.21pm?

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Yep I did create another account. Sorry about that, I did not know it was not allowed :( On my old account (James1859) after changing my password to a stronger one (I use password generators), I was not able to log back in. I'm not sure why, but I suspect the forum software here can't handle 40 character passwords. I would suggest some validation is added so that if a password is longer than x characters, the user is told so.

Please delete this post and reset my password on my old account so that I may post under that :(

Sorry about that. I wish I could have used my old account, but I couldn't :(

@Wanderer, those are the dates on the visa, Casa must be right.

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Re: Spouse Visa Expiring Soon

Post by Wanderer » Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:52 pm

Ciwan wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:59 am
CR001 wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:00 pm
Is there a reason you have registered a new username when you already have one, which you logged into today at 4.21pm?

member/James1859/

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Yep I did create another account. Sorry about that, I did not know it was not allowed :( On my old account (James1859) after changing my password to a stronger one (I use password generators), I was not able to log back in. I'm not sure why, but I suspect the forum software here can't handle 40 character passwords. I would suggest some validation is added so that if a password is longer than x characters, the user is told so.

Please delete this post and reset my password on my old account so that I may post under that :(

Sorry about that. I wish I could have used my old account, but I couldn't :(

@Wanderer, those are the dates on the visa, Casa must be right.
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Re: Spouse Visa Expiring Soon

Post by CR001 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:55 pm

Wanderer wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:52 pm
She's just a show-off!!
LOL, but she is good, especially with tea on tap :wink:
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Re: Spouse Visa Expiring Soon

Post by James1859 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 1:19 pm

Ok, that's fine, thanks again CR001. Now that that's sorted. Can someone please advise me on the matter at hand. We're really confused. :cry:

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Re: Spouse Visa Expiring Soon

Post by CR001 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 1:28 pm

My wife was issued her spouse visa in February 2015. This expires in November 2017.
I am confused on what needs to happen now. Do I renew the spouse visa? or do I apply for leave to remain?

Renew a spouse visa and apply for leave to remain are the same thing. So yes, she has to apply for a spouse visa renewal before her current visa expires.
Can you please tell me the forms that I need to fill and the costs associated.
Form FLR(M). Cost is £993 to apply by post and £1583 to apply in person for a same day decision.
Are there any special requirements?
You need to meet the £18,600pa financial requirement and submit at least 6 months payslips and 6 months corresponding bank statements. She needs to meet the English A2 test. You must submit evidence of cohabitation and subsisting marriage. Page 63/64 of the form gives examples of what HO expect to see.
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Re: Spouse Visa Expiring Soon

Post by James1859 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 1:33 pm

Thank you so much, just one question. Is the English A2 test the same one she had to take when she initially applied for the spouse visa? Cause I remember at the time, she did take some sort of English test (don't know the name of it) and she did pass. Is this now a different test?

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Re: Spouse Visa Expiring Soon

Post by CR001 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 1:39 pm

She would have needed English A1 for her initial visa.

HO changed the requirements in May this year and she now needs English A2 from an HO approved test provider.
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Re: Spouse Visa Expiring Soon

Post by James1859 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 1:54 pm

CR001 wrote:
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She would have needed English A1 for her initial visa.

HO changed the requirements in May this year and she now needs English A2 from an HO approved test provider.
Ouch, what happens if she doesn't obtain the English A2 before her Visa expires? :(

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Re: Spouse Visa Expiring Soon

Post by CR001 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 1:57 pm

If her visa expires and she has not applied she will be an overstayer.

A likely refusal if she applies without it and she might then be granted FLR(FP) 10 year partner route which is 4 x 2.5 year visas before she will qualify for indefinite leave to remain.

A2 is not that different to A1 so she should be fine.
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Re: Spouse Visa Expiring Soon

Post by James1859 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:09 pm

I just asked her to send me a photo of the certificate. I'm at work so didn't have it at hand, it does say A2 on it. Would this suffice for the "happy path" (not the 10 years).

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Re: Spouse Visa Expiring Soon

Post by CR001 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:14 pm

Should be fine then as she has used it for a previous application.

I have removed the link as it contains her personal identifiable information.

I am assuming though that the certificate has expired.
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Re: Spouse Visa Expiring Soon

Post by James1859 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:32 pm

Thanks CR001. On the certificate itself, I can't see anything about expiration. I'll check out page 63 / 64 of the form, and see if there is any confusing material. Thanks so much.

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Re: Spouse Visa Expiring Soon

Post by CR001 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:45 pm

Looks like her test will be ok. See page 41 onwards in the form regarding English test, particularly Note 3 on page 43.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... -04-17.pdf
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Evidence of Cohabitation

Post by James1859 » Tue Sep 12, 2017 10:36 am

Hi all

Wife's spouse visa is expiring soon (Nov 2017) and I need to fill in the FLR-M form. On page 63 of the form, it says this:
Six items of correspondence addressed to you and your partner at the same address as
evidence that you have been living together since your last grant of leave in this category, or
from the date you first started living together up to a maximum of two years.
We only have one bill where we have our joint names on, had I know this would have been asked for, I would have changed our bills a long time ago.

She has her own phone bill from Three (that's only in her own name). Also, she gets Statement Reminders from Nationwide (again only in her name).

Would these be sufficient? Is there anything else I can do?

Any help and advice would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Evidence of Cohabitation

Post by CR001 » Tue Sep 12, 2017 10:53 am

6 items spread evening over 2 years in joint names or 12 items in individuals (each of you) names. Anything like NHS letters, bank letters, DVLA correspondence, NI letter, etc etc.
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Re: Evidence of Cohabitation

Post by James1859 » Tue Sep 12, 2017 11:05 am

When they say 12 items, what constitutes an item?

Our Yorkshire Water bill is in both our names, but that comes every quarter. So say we can get 3 of those. Is that now 9 items (for 9 months) or 3 items? Or is that 1 item (because it is all from Yorkshire Water)?

The Three mobile contract is new, before that she was on a Virgin Mobile contract, but that was in my name as I'm the employed person of the family. Since she's come here, she's been a full-time Mum.

She doesn't have any letters from the GP. We occasionally get some letters for our baby daughter, but we've been throwing those out after the appointment ...etc.

She's been with Nationwide for a while, so we can probably get more than 12 Statement of those. But again, would those count as 12 items?

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Re: Evidence of Cohabitation

Post by James1859 » Tue Sep 12, 2017 11:07 am

I mean three Yorkshire Water bills for our current house. We bought a house (on Mortgage) end of last year. Prior to that, the water bill was in my name only.

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