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Naturalisation Various Questions

Post by SAM143 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 1:11 pm

HI!
Thanks for all your very useful information and advice in the past.
Now i need some information about FORM AN as i am applying for naturalization soon through NCS:
1)i got 3 points on my licence in April 2014 by police while i was on phone,did not go to court and accepted points and paid fine on time.
please could someone help me should i need to mention it on form or not and where it comes under.(1)3.3 do u have civil penalty? or
(2)further information not covered in form at page 22

please some one can put some explanations on this as have an appointment with NCS soon.
MANY THANKS IN ADVANCE

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Re: applying for naturalization with 3 penalty points

Post by KH1 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 1:32 pm

FPN no need to declare.

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Re: applying for naturalization with 3 penalty points

Post by SAM143 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 1:54 pm

Hi KH1 many thanks for your prompt reply i really appreciate it,
please could you give me some more explanation just for mind satisfaction as i red somewhere you should explain FPN on form i do not want to hide any information.
many thanks again

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Re: applying for naturalization with 3 penalty points

Post by SAM143 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 4:47 pm

any suggestion and advise pleas as my NCS appointment will be soon
many thanks in advance

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applying for naturalization as director of a limited company

Post by SAM143 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 5:30 pm

hi!
i am applying naturalization through NCS soon in few days time,please could someone advise me in filling form AN.
1)what kind of documents i need to submit as i am a director of a limited company and employee of the same company?
2)in 10 years employment history i am not sure about my start and leaving dates of employments,however,tax years are sufficient? as i request HMRC to provide employment history it shows only tax years not the start and leaving dates of my each jobs.
your advise,suggestion and recommendation will be appreciated.
many thanks

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Re: applying for naturalization as director of a limited company

Post by SAM143 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:20 pm

any suggestion please as my appointment coming soon
thanks

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Re: applying for naturalization as director of a limited company

Post by Devil81 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:48 pm

Hi SAM143,

Even I have applied for Naturalisation and I am a Director of my Ltd company.

Documents I submitted supporting my application were:
Accountant letter
Employment history from HMRC (6yrs)
P60s (6yrs)

You can also include Self-assessments (SAs), Cmpy Incorporation Cert and VAT certificate.

On your second query, I don't think they are interested in your start and end dates of employment. Your tax history from HMRC should be sufficient but don't think they can go as back as 10yrs.

Also ensure all your taxes have been paid before the date of your application.

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Re: applying for naturalization as director of a limited company

Post by SAM143 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 9:52 pm

Hi dear Devil81!
Thanks for your kind advise really appreciated.
Please could you give me some information about accountant letter, I mean what type of letter I need to submit with my application?
Many thanks

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Re: applying for naturalization with 3 penalty points

Post by SAM143 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 9:55 pm

Hi dear seniors!
Please anyone could advise on these questions
Many thanks

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Gp could act as refree?

Post by SAM143 » Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:26 am

Hi!
Please could someone kindly help me to confirm GP is acceptable as a referee for my citizenship application form AN?
As he is willing to sign on it.
Many thanks for your support

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Re: Gp could act as refree?

Post by CR001 » Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:44 am

No, they are not on the list.

Also, can you please keep ALL your questions on the same application in ONE topic. It is not necessary to start a new thread with each question you have.
Char (CR001 not Casa)
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Please DO NOT send me a PM for immigration advice. I reserve the right to ignore the PM and not respond.

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Re: Naturalisation Various Questions

Post by andrekauffman » Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:41 am

Hi SAM143.

I am not an expert but I can tell you what I did.
Good Character section 3 says:

" Drink driving offences must be declared. If you have any endorsements on your
driving licence
you must access the DVLA website to download and print a summary
of your record and send it with your application. A driving conviction may not be
disregarded despite any penalty points being removed from your driving licence
. "

I also have 3 points in my licence from 2016. In fact I had 3 points in 2011 and another 3 points in 2013.
Apart from 2016 one, all the points are gone from my driving licence.

As you did not go to court, there is no need to tick yes in any of this boxes.
Simply go to page 17 and declare it. Just state the offence, date, 3 points and fine value.
That's what I did.
People have different opinions and views of it. Its not very clear.

Is better to this than not declare it and get refused. The punishment of not been honest is much worse.

Good luck

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Re: Naturalisation Various Questions

Post by KH1 » Mon Oct 16, 2017 1:05 pm

andrekauffman wrote:
Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:41 am
Hi SAM143.

I am not an expert but I can tell you what I did.
Good Character section 3 says:

" Drink driving offences must be declared. If you have any endorsements on your
driving licence
you must access the DVLA website to download and print a summary
of your record and send it with your application. A driving conviction may not be
disregarded despite any penalty points being removed from your driving licence
. "

I also have 3 points in my licence from 2016. In fact I had 3 points in 2011 and another 3 points in 2013.
Apart from 2016 one, all the points are gone from my driving licence.

As you did not go to court, there is no need to tick yes in any of this boxes.
Simply go to page 17 and declare it. Just state the offence, date, 3 points and fine value.
That's what I did.
People have different opinions and views of it. Its not very clear.

Is better to this than not declare it and get refused. The punishment of not been honest is much worse.

Good luck
So according to you did declare points which was issued in 2016 and which one you got in 2011 and 2013 are removed from your licence and you did not declare them.if i understad right. I speak with some solicitors and they told me we dont need to mention FPN if its only one in last monts.

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Re: Naturalisation Various Questions

Post by andrekauffman » Mon Oct 16, 2017 5:32 pm

Well, I did declare all of them. After searching everywhere I was not sure if I have to declare or not, so I did just in case. The lady on NCS said unless you have numeros or more than 1 on last 12 months, it would not be a problem.
In my opinion, they can find out anyway so I just declared all of them on page 17.

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Re: Naturalisation Various Questions

Post by SAM143 » Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:04 pm

Hi,
thanks for your reply and advice much appreciated

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