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Crown / designated service spouses - residency requirements

Post by Str2017 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:25 pm

Hi everyone

I’ve looked everywhere but can’t seem to find information/experiences regarding the residency requirement waiver for spouses of BC on Crown / designated service.

I have looked at the AN form, guidance and other HO documents and it is my understanding that as long as all other requirements are met, the residency requirement may be waived.

I live abroad with my husband (who is employed on designated service) but have never lived in the UK. I have visited a few times though and we have the intention of going back there after finishing his employment.

My question is has anyone heard of naturalisation been granted on this basis? Grateful if anyone could share their thoughts/advice/experiences.

Thanks

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Re: Crown / designated service spouses - residency requirements

Post by secret.simon » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:29 pm

What designated service is your husband performing?

Be aware that the requirement for physical presence in the UK at the start of the three/five year period is non-negotiable (which is one reason why I think that Meghan Markle will require a personal Act of Parliament to become a British citizen).
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Re: Crown / designated service spouses - residency requirements

Post by secret.simon » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:45 pm

Have you also looked through Pages 19-20 of the Booklet AN?
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Re: Crown / designated service spouses - residency requirements

Post by Str2017 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:57 am

That's the tricky bit - i found the guidance below:

"When you are considering an application where the applicant is the spouse or civil partner of a British citizen who is in Crown or designated service, who was recruited for that service whilst in the UK, you can use discretion to waive the following requirements:
• the requirement to have been in the UK on a date 3 years before the date of application (so if I have not been in the UK at all in the last 3 years then that's fine, I guess?)
• the requirements not to have been absent for more than 270 days in the 3 year qualifying period or more than 90 days in the final year of the qualifying period"

Meaning only those 2 requirements can be waived out of the 4 residency requirements. The other 2 residency requirements are:

• the applicant was not, on the date of the application subject under the immigration laws to any restriction on the period of stay in the UK
• the applicant was not, at any time in the period of 3 years ending with the date of application in breach of immigration laws


Pages 19 - 20 of the AN booklet are precisely what made us think I can qualify:

"If you are married to or the civil partner of a British citizen who is in Crown service or a similar service, there is a possible alternative to the 3 year residential qualifying period. To apply on this basis you will need to show that:
• On the day you apply your husband, wife or civil partner is working outside the UK either in Crown or designated service. (tick)
• Your husband, wife or civil partner should have been recruited in the UK to that service. (tick)
• Your naturalisation on Crown or designated service grounds should be in the interests of your husband/wife or civil partner’s employing organisation. The organisation should provide a letter to this effect. (tick)
• If you are in the UK on the day you apply, you must not be subject to time restrictions on your stay. (Big question mark --- I have a visit visa BUT not in the UK at the moment and plan to post the application)
• You were not in the UK in breach of the immigration laws during the period of 3 years immediately before applying. (tick - never been in breach of any sort of immigration laws)
• Your marriage/civil partnership should have lasted 3 years or more (tick)"

I'm aware this is at discretion of the caseworker but I would like to be sure that I at least qualify before I apply. Also considering that I will have to travel to the UK to sit the LITUK test.

Any comments/insights appreciated!

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Re: Crown / designated service spouses - residency requirements

Post by CR001 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:15 am

• If you are in the UK on the day you apply, you must not be subject to time restrictions on your stay.
You don't meet the highlighted requirement above, i.e. being free from any time restrictions, i.e. Indefinite Leave to Remain.
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Re: Crown / designated service spouses - residency requirements

Post by Str2017 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:27 am

Are you sure? It says “if you’re in the Uk” and I’m not. I also read somewhere in the guidance that not being in the UK equals to not been subject to time restrictions....

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Re: Crown / designated service spouses - residency requirements

Post by secret.simon » Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:01 am

I stand corrected. The Secretary of State does have the complete discretion to disregard all requirements for spouses of British citizens in Crown or Designated services (Paragraph 4(d) of Schedule 1 of the British Nationality Act 1981).

However, discretion is not exercised nilly-willy. You are eligible to apply, but be aware of the conditions that are listed in Booklet AN.

Was your British citizen spouse recruited into Crown or designated service within the UK?
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Re: Crown / designated service spouses - residency requirements

Post by Str2017 » Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:52 am

Yes, he was. We need a letter from the department but want to give them all the facts when we ask them for one.

High fees + discretion. This is why I want to ensure I’m eligible before applying. I called the HO and they weren’t very helpful. One solicitor firm i called had no idea what I was talking about and the other one wasn’t sure of my eligibility as i had only ever had visit visas (no ILRs, etc).

We’d like to live in the UK after the posting but with the immigration rules getting more and more difficult, we’re getting a bit worried the settlement requirements will change too.

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