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UK Newborn - UK Passport OR (ROA+Indian Passport)

Post by applefan123 » Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:57 am

Hi,
We both parents have UK Passport and OCI.

My baby is due this June. After baby is born in UK, I am planning to move immediately to India for long term due to personal reasons.
I understand that getting (British Passport+OCI) for new born takes atleast 4-5 months. Indian-Visa is not an option I believe, as baby can stay only 180days(6months) per visit.

Hence, I am thinking about (ROA+Indian passport).
ROA(Right of Adobe) gives my child any time entry back to UK AND Indian passport gives baby unlimited stay in India.
But, unable to understand timeline. Can anyone guide me please if (ROA+Indian passport) a right option for quicker travel to India?

Many Thanks in Advance!!

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Re: UK Newborn - UK Passport OR (ROA+Indian Passport)

Post by CR001 » Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:47 am

A British passport takes 1 week for a child as you can use fast track service.

For OCI, you would need to check the 'Other Countries' sub forum further down the main forum page.
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Re: UK Newborn - UK Passport OR (ROA+Indian Passport)

Post by applefan123 » Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:09 am

Thank You CR001.

But, I need some help with ROA and how long it does take to get it. And, my approach of (Indianpassport+ROA) is a right apparoach to bring my child back to UK after few years?

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Re: UK Newborn - UK Passport OR (ROA+Indian Passport)

Post by CR001 » Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:13 am

ROA expires with a passport.

Your best option if you don't want to do British passport and OCI is to leave the UK on an Indian passport and apply for ROA when ready to return.

Not sure how the Indian passport issue works considering the fact that your child is automatically British.
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Re: UK Newborn - UK Passport OR (ROA+Indian Passport)

Post by vinny » Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:27 am

applefan123 wrote:
Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:57 am
We both parents have UK Passport
Both parents being British may prevent child from being Indian?
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Re: UK Newborn - UK Passport OR (ROA+Indian Passport)

Post by applefan123 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:25 pm

Thank You for the link vinny.
Based on this information I understand that, within one year of baby's birth I should apply for Indian citizenship/passport. Otherwise, after one year we cannot claim as indian citizen.

Can any experts or people who have gone through the process of (Indianpassport+ROA) share their experience please??

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Re: UK Newborn - UK Passport OR (ROA+Indian Passport)

Post by secret.simon » Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:18 pm

As Vinny has already pointed out, Indian passport is not an option.

For the child to have Indian citizenship, the child needs to have at least one parent with Indian citizenship (not OCI, but full Indian citizenship) at the time of birth of the child AND either be born in India or be registered with the Indian authorities abroad within one year of his birth.

As both parents have British citizenship, the child cannot be registered as an Indian citizen and therefore cannot get an Indian passport. As CoE-RoA requires a non-British passport, it is not an option.

A CoE-RoA on an Indian passport would only work in two scenarios.
a) A child born in India to one British parent and one Indian parent
b) A child born in the UK to at least one parent with ILR/PR/British citizenship and one parent holding Indian citizenship (the parent holding Indian citizenship and ILR/PR can be the same parent).

The only option open to you for the child is a first child British passport.

Also see this scanned copy of the Citizenship Act 1955 on the (Indian) Ministry of Home Affairs website.
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Re: UK Newborn - UK Passport OR (ROA+Indian Passport)

Post by lostboy14 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:38 pm

applefan123 wrote:
Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:57 am
Hi,
We both parents have UK Passport and OCI.

My baby is due this June. After baby is born in UK, I am planning to move immediately to India for long term due to personal reasons.
I understand that getting (British Passport+OCI) for new born takes atleast 4-5 months. Indian-Visa is not an option I believe, as baby can stay only 180days(6months) per visit.

Hence, I am thinking about (ROA+Indian passport).
ROA(Right of Adobe) gives my child any time entry back to UK AND Indian passport gives baby unlimited stay in India.
But, unable to understand timeline. Can anyone guide me please if (ROA+Indian passport) a right option for quicker travel to India?

Many Thanks in Advance!!
Take British passport,apply for Indian visit visa than in India u can apply for OCI.

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Re: UK Newborn - UK Passport OR (ROA+Indian Passport)

Post by applefan123 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:35 pm

Thanks for the advice 'lostboy14'
This seems to better option for quicker travel to India:
British passport + 6months India visa and then apply OCI after reaching India.

lostboy14 wrote:
Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:38 pm

Take British passport,apply for Indian visit visa than in India u can apply for OCI.

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Re: UK Newborn - UK Passport OR (ROA+Indian Passport)

Post by secret.simon » Wed Mar 07, 2018 3:14 pm

New developments - It seems that Indian passport + CoE-RoA may be an option for children born in India to both naturalised British citizens with OCI.
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