Declaration page of visa application was signed - UKVI claiming not signed

[Bushy902]

Hi,

I am new here and I have a few questions.

Immigration history:

Moved to UK on a Tier 4 in Jan 2009
PSW - Jan 2011- Dec 2012
Tier 4 from Jan 2013- May 2018
Applied for FLR (FP) Decision pending

1. How often does the UKVI check the application for validity before biometrics are given?

2. They have asked me to send them a signed declaration form within the next 10 working days - which is one of the pages of the FLR (FP) visa application. They are saying that I have not signed, even though I am 100 percent sure that I did. A copy of this page of the application was sent to me.


A green slip which has a date of 5th July 2018 is also sent. I am supposed to put a stamp on the green slip and send the signed declaration document back to them

The date is stated as B/F: 5th July 2018

Does the B/F stand for 'Brought Forward?

May I please know what is going on?

I have 'no doubt' in mind that I did sign the declaration page and I also stated the date.

(A friend who works at the CAB said, any declaration document signed after 25th May 2018 will allow the other side more powers as the new data protection act or something apply to such applicants). I have no problems in allowing them to check anything they like but since I am 100 percent sure that I did sign the declaration (the visa application page which they have sent me), I feel weird about this as this action/claim about not signing seems deliberate).

[CR001]

Why not just sign the page and send it back??

Did you keep a copy of the application form you sent?? There is more than 1 page/place that needs a signature so maybe possible that you missed one of the spaces

On what basis have you applied for FLR(FP)??

Your application only starts getting looked at and processed once you have enrolled your biometrics.

[Bushy902]

Hi CR001,

Thank you for replying to my message. You are very kind.

My FLR (FP) is based on my relationship with a British citizen along with additional factors.

I do not have a copy of my application. However, this is not the first time I have submitted a visa application. I have a habit of checking everything several times and that is why I am so sure. I will request someone to resend the signed declaration document again but I am still planning to mention this question in the cover letter. Is that a good idea or is it going to annoy them?

Is it normal for the UKVI to do the assessment of the 'validity' of the application 'before' the biometrics?

The second biometrics letter was sent with this 'declaration' page and another 15 working days have been given to me (10 working days are provided to resend the declaration form).

With the initial biometric letter, nothing of this sort was sent so to me, it signifies a procedural contradiction :/

Besides, I would like to reiterate, I am 100 percent sure I have signed the declaration page and yes, I am aware that the signature is required on more than one page. (Following the news about what the UKVI has done in the past make me worry).

I am housebound since quite some time and I have made the UKVI aware of this with evidence provided to me by my GP well in advance but instead of offering me an exemption from the biometrics, they have sent me another letter with another 15 working days. They should be having my biometrics from my previous applications. I would like to know how often does the UKVI exempt applicants from giving biometrics as a one off?

To my understanding, if I could not give my biometrics within the next 15 working days, the last warning letter will have 10 days. So is it safe to assume that I will get another 10 days after this for sure?

My situation really makes me feel anxious.

Thank you.

[CR001]

All visa applications require biometrics to be submitted again. This is to verify and confirm you are the person applying. To avoid your application be refused or invalidated, I would suggest you try to get it done ASAP.

[Bushy902]

Hi CR001,

You stated:

''Your application only starts getting looked at and processed once you have enrolled your biometrics.''

In my case, my application was checked whether it is valid or not, before the biometrics were given.

What does this mean?

(Plus, the declaration was signed for sure)

Have you seen any cases where an applicant's application was made invalid or rejected for failing to give biometrics at the second 15 working days period?

To the best of my knowledge, there is ''always'' a last 10 days duration.

Am I wrong to assume the above?

[CR001]

If biometrics are not enrolled, your application is rejected. As you have received the second letter already, I would err on the side of caution rather than anticipating a third letter.

Note that applications can and are still refused or rejected for whatever reason even after biometrics are done.

[Bushy902]

You stated:

''If biometrics are not enrolled, your application is rejected. As you have received the second letter already, I would err on the side of caution rather than anticipating a third letter.''

Let's say if I am not better, I would have to go through a lot of inconvenience and make special arrangements to get this sorted.

What kind of medical evidence is acceptable to the UKVI? So far I have sent them my GP medical history, a sick note and details of an MRI scan appointment etc.

Since I feel a lot of pressure, I even rendered the services of an Osteopath. He came to my place and tried to fix the issue with my back for over 2 hours but it has not done much. In fact, all he did was cause severe pain and gave me some advice. I can also send the UKVI his notes. My GP has arranged an appointment with a back specialist but that is in October. I will go crazy by then.

Your stated:

Note that applications can and are still refused or rejected for whatever reason even after biometrics are done.

Do the case workers have the authority to reject an application before the biometrics is given in the allotted time period?

The current biometric letter clearly states if biometrics are not given within the allotted period, the decision on my application maybe significantly delayed or maybe rejected. However, based on my past experience, a last letter with a 10 days duration is something which they 'always' do.

Can anyone please confirm the above otherwise, I will be forced to go through a lot of inconvenience, if I am not better by the deadline.

[Bushy902]

Please reply here, people and please share your perspective

Ever since UKVI has looked at the validity of my application before even receiving my biometrics and asked me to sign the declaration which I know I did sign for sure .. I feel so uneasy

How often does the above happen - It's definitely a first for me

I was hoping for an exemption, not this :

[Bushy902]

I would be really really grateful, if some of you could reply here. I am so worried

[Bushy902]

Hi CR001,

You stated:

''Your application only starts getting looked at and processed once you have enrolled your biometrics.''

In my case, my application was checked whether it is valid or not, before the biometrics were given.

What does this mean?

(Plus, the declaration was signed for sure)

Please reply to the above at at least.

On what basis, did the HO check an application for validity before the biometrics .. is this a very rare occurrence and if it is, why have they specifically picked my application for it

[Mojojojo00]

To me the above means they are considering your application and they will make a decision on it on 5th July.

B/F indeed means brought forward. This means your application will be on the caseworker's desk and he or she will make a decision on your application there and then. Nevertheless, please double check this with a senior op here.

And yes, it is abnormal for them to check the validity of your application before the biometrics.

Is the justification of your application fairly weak?