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Tier 2(G) to ILR Advice Needed

Post by Cofresh » Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:47 am

Great work this forum is doing. I'm making an in-person application through the Tier 2 general route. There are a few niggles that I want to ask about.

So my wife was granted a dependent visa and we have both fulfilled the 4 years 11 months and 2 days requirement. Our in-person appointment is scheduled on 26/7. I am filling in the Set(O) form. Our child was born in the UK so we intend to apply for naturalization immediately after I get a positive decision letter for settlement (will HO have an objection with that?).
Am I correct in understanding that I only need to fill in one Set(O) for myself and spouse details and not a separate Set(O) for spouse as we are applying at the same time?

Some application specific question:
Question 1. Language. I have previously proven English language ability by taking IELTS (around 7 years ago). This certificate has 2 years validity ofc and it was part of my initial application for previous visa as well as the Tier 2 visa and tier 2 renewal (at which point it was definitely been two years). Now that I am making an ILR application, am I correct to assume that I should include the same certificate and since it has already been accepted, it doesn't become invalid after two years and I won't have to take a language test again (or UKNARIC certificate for my masters degree from Pakistan). My wife has the same certificate but she completed a UK Masters degree so she's covered anyways.

Question 2. Letter from employer regarding absence. I haven't spent 180 days or more in any rolling year and nor has my wife. I had one official travel and all others were personal holidays where I obtained annual leave. Is this sufficient for my employer to write that during these holiday dates, I had an annual leave and that's it?
Related question for my wife. Set(O) doesn't ask about her absences in the same manner as it does for me on the dependents page. For her, the question is "Have you had any absences from the UK during any leave granted since 11 January 2018?". The last leave we were grated was in 2015 (Tier 2 renewal) however she has traveled outside UK since 11 Jan 2018. Should I say NO to this question as the leave was granted before the 11/1/2018? I think I will include a lengthy supporting letter which will contain all her absences anyway.

Question 3: Cohabitation. We have got plenty of letters, mostly individual letters at the same address including voting cards, payslips, driving licenses etc. Our main bank account is a joint one, the statement of which will be included too. Latest water bill includes both of our names. This address is same as our previous application too. Sufficient? or anything else needed? Her passport has my name as husband's name since before we first came to UK and if that's not enough, she's got plenty of shopping on our joint account :lol: .

Question 4: Previous Passport. Few months ago, I put them somewhere before travelling and haven't found them in the obvious places. I have some photos of relevant pages for the previous passports. How important will it be to find them or file a report with the police for lost previous passports (if they even consider filing such a report). In my renewal (2015) application, it was my previous passport that was valid at that time. I haven't misplaced any current documents (BRP/Passport etc).


Appreciate your response - always been reassuring and technically very sound.

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Re: Tier 2(G) to ILR Advice Needed

Post by CR001 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:57 am

Our child was born in the UK so we intend to apply for naturalization immediately after I get a positive decision letter for settlement (will HO have an objection with that?).
Children are Registered as British not Naturalised (for adults). Why would HO object do you believe??
Am I correct in understanding that I only need to fill in one Set(O) for myself and spouse details and not a separate Set(O) for spouse as we are applying at the same time?
Yes, one form.
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Re: Tier 2(G) to ILR Advice Needed

Post by Cofresh » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:33 pm

That's because the child is 4 y.o. and has a pakistani passport - we did not have settled status when the child was born. Currently the child is a Tier 2 dependent too.
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Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:57 am
Our child was born in the UK so we intend to apply for naturalization immediately after I get a positive decision letter for settlement (will HO have an objection with that?).
Children are Registered as British not Naturalised (for adults). Why would HO object do you believe??

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Re: Tier 2(G) to ILR Advice Needed

Post by CR001 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:37 pm

Cofresh wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:33 pm
That's because the child is 4 y.o. and has a pakistani passport - we did not have settled status when the child was born. Currently the child is a Tier 2 dependent too.
CR001 wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:57 am
Our child was born in the UK so we intend to apply for naturalization immediately after I get a positive decision letter for settlement (will HO have an objection with that?).
Children are Registered as British not Naturalised (for adults). Why would HO object do you believe??
If the child is UK born and entitled to register, this is acceptable, regardless of whether a UK born child has a visa or not. HO know the rules.
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Re: Tier 2(G) to ILR Advice Needed

Post by trueblue19 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:40 pm

Some application specific question:
Question 1. Language. I have previously proven English language ability by taking IELTS (around 7 years ago). This certificate has 2 years validity ofc and it was part of my initial application for previous visa as well as the Tier 2 visa and tier 2 renewal (at which point it was definitely been two years). Now that I am making an ILR application, am I correct to assume that I should include the same certificate and since it has already been accepted, it doesn't become invalid after two years and I won't have to take a language test again (or UKNARIC certificate for my masters degree from Pakistan). My wife has the same certificate but she completed a UK Masters degree so she's covered anyways.
You will need to check if the test centre you took the IELTS exam at, is still in the list of approved centres. In my case, this wasnt so, and I took the GESE Level 5 exam with Trinity College London. You cannot use expired certificates (even if they were accepted in the previous applications) if the centre is not on the approved test centre list anymore.

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Re: Tier 2(G) to ILR Advice Needed

Post by Cofresh » Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:16 pm

Thanks, its definitely registration as you said, the form that I have ready for the child, once we get a decision on our settlement.
CR001 wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:37 pm
Cofresh wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:33 pm
That's because the child is 4 y.o. and has a pakistani passport - we did not have settled status when the child was born. Currently the child is a Tier 2 dependent too.
CR001 wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:57 am
Our child was born in the UK so we intend to apply for naturalization immediately after I get a positive decision letter for settlement (will HO have an objection with that?).
Children are Registered as British not Naturalised (for adults). Why would HO object do you believe??
If the child is UK born and entitled to register, this is acceptable, regardless of whether a UK born child has a visa or not. HO know the rules.

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Re: Tier 2(G) to ILR Advice Needed

Post by Cofresh » Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:20 pm

The test centre is PK011 (BC) and is on the list "List of approved tests and providers: from 1 June 2018". Given the centre is on the list, the question asked is that will this be acceptable even though it was taken seven years ago but has previously been included in the Tier 2 application, renewal and another application prior to that? Or do I need another test result / UKNARIC degree approval etc for my Masters from Pakistan?

THanks for your comment
trueblue19 wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:40 pm
Some application specific question:
Question 1. Language. I have previously proven English language ability by taking IELTS (around 7 years ago). This certificate has 2 years validity ofc and it was part of my initial application for previous visa as well as the Tier 2 visa and tier 2 renewal (at which point it was definitely been two years). Now that I am making an ILR application, am I correct to assume that I should include the same certificate and since it has already been accepted, it doesn't become invalid after two years and I won't have to take a language test again (or UKNARIC certificate for my masters degree from Pakistan). My wife has the same certificate but she completed a UK Masters degree so she's covered anyways.
You will need to check if the test centre you took the IELTS exam at, is still in the list of approved centres. In my case, this wasnt so, and I took the GESE Level 5 exam with Trinity College London. You cannot use expired certificates (even if they were accepted in the previous applications) if the centre is not on the approved test centre list anymore.

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Re: Tier 2(G) to ILR Advice Needed

Post by Cofresh » Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:20 pm

All questions have been fully or partially resolved. I'm providing the summary for anyone else to use:

Cofresh wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:47 am
Our child was born in the UK so we intend to apply for naturalization immediately after I get a positive decision letter for settlement (will HO have an objection with that?).
Corrected - its Registration, not naturalisation. It should not make a difference for our application.
Cofresh wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:47 am
Am I correct in understanding that I only need to fill in one Set(O) for myself and spouse details and not a separate Set(O) for spouse as we are applying at the same time?
Yes, need one form only
Cofresh wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:47 am
Question 1. Language. I have previously proven English language ability by taking IELTS (around 7 years ago). This certificate has 2 years validity ofc and it was part of my initial application for previous visa as well as the Tier 2 visa and tier 2 renewal (at which point it was definitely been two years). Now that I am making an ILR application, am I correct to assume that I should include the same certificate and since it has already been accepted, it doesn't become invalid after two years and I won't have to take a language test again (or UKNARIC certificate for my masters degree from Pakistan). My wife has the same certificate but she completed a UK Masters degree so she's covered anyways.
The test centre is still valid (PK011) and the IELTS score was submitted in original Tier 2 (General) application. The test does not expire in this case after two years and the requirement stays met.
Cofresh wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:47 am
Question 3: Cohabitation. We have got plenty of letters, mostly individual letters at the same address including voting cards, payslips, driving licenses etc. Our main bank account is a joint one, the statement of which will be included too. Latest water bill includes both of our names. This address is same as our previous application too. Sufficient? or anything else needed? Her passport has my name as husband's name since before we first came to UK and if that's not enough, she's got plenty of shopping on our joint account :lol: .
Haven't had a response but found plenty of individual letters and joint letters (joint account statement), electoral roll registration & polling cards, childcare invoices (both names on it) etc. Should be sufficient.
Cofresh wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:47 am
Question 4: Previous Passport. Few months ago, I put them somewhere before travelling and haven't found them in the obvious places. I have some photos of relevant pages for the previous passports. How important will it be to find them or file a report with the police for lost previous passports (if they even consider filing such a report). In my renewal (2015) application, it was my previous passport that was valid at that time. I haven't misplaced any current documents (BRP/Passport etc).
I did a thorough search and found my old passports. Question hasn't been answered but the issue has been resolved.


Hope this helps someone else?

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