Can’t make marriage certificate by December 2020

[lemarlemar121]

Hello everyone
An Eu citizens with pre settle status in U.K. wants to marry someone from none Eu country but because of coronavirus lockdown in that country and Eu citizen not good health she can’t travel to that country for now.

She’s is worried if she doesn’t get married by the end of this year she won’t be able to bring her husband using the Eu settlement scheme.

Now the question can they get married in a third country like Dubai on visit visas?

Or can the marry online on Skype or any other video calling app?

Please share your valuable ideas or if has any one done any proxy marriage please share your experience?

Thanks

[Zerubbabel]

If it is an Islamic/Ourfi marriage, it won't be valid even if it was done face to face.

Civil marriage registered with an authority is what she needs. I know that the Home Office used to refuse civil marriages by proxy even when there is a valid marriage certificate.

I don't know what is the situation now.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... dings.html

[lemarlemar121]

If it is an Islamic/Ourfi marriage, it won't be valid even if it was done face to face.

Civil marriage registered with an authority is what she needs. I know that the Home Office used to refuse civil marriages by proxy even when there is a valid marriage certificate.

I don't know what is the situation now.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... dings.html

Thanks for your reply.
Yes they will be doing Islamic marriage. Does anyone have any idea if anyone can marry someone in Dubai on visit visa?

[Zerubbabel]

Islamic marriage doesn't work even if you are face to face. It's not considered as a marriage but as a personal agreement between people. So when it comes to immigration, it has no value.

To marry in Dubai, at least one of the party must be resident. In other Emirates, both must be resident:

https://u.ae/en/information-and-service ... s/marriage

In Dubai, at least one party to the marriage contract (husband, wife or wife’s guardian) should have a residence visa in the UAE. In other emirates, both bride and groom must be UAE residents.

[CR001]

Have you and your partner met in person/face to face before?

[lemarlemar121]

Have you and your partner met in person/face to face before?

Yes have met in turkey last August and we few years ago in another Asian country.
He can’t travel to Turkey now because his visa is expired it’s easy to get uae visa.

[Zerubbabel]

It's easy but it won't get you too far because it's not enough to get married there.

Also consider that marriage is not a silver bullet when it comes to immigration in the UK. If you haven't seen each other a lot, the Home Office may dispute the validityof your relationship even if you are married.

[New on forum]

Islamic marriage doesn't work even if you are face to face. It's not considered as a marriage but as a personal agreement between people. So when it comes to immigration, it has no value.

To marry in Dubai, at least one of the party must be resident. In other Emirates, both must be resident:

https://u.ae/en/information-and-service ... s/marriage

In Dubai, at least one party to the marriage contract (husband, wife or wife’s guardian) should have a residence visa in the UAE. In other emirates, both bride and groom must be UAE residents.

This probably need to be a bit more clearer An Islamic marriage is accepted if it's registered in with the relevant authority of of the country it was conducted in.
Yes if it's a verbal Nikah only and no paper work then it's not recognised.
Where I come from apart from a few religious minority marriages every marriage is islamically conducted and registered with local union council and is perfectly recognised for immigration purpose in the uk.
Even in the uk if an Islamic marriage is performed by licensed registrar from a mosque it's valid in law.

[lemarlemar121]

It's easy but it won't get you too far because it's not enough to get married there.

Also consider that marriage is not a silver bullet when it comes to immigration in the UK. If you haven't seen each other a lot, the Home Office may dispute the validityof your relationship even if you are married.

Thanks for your reply. Yes it’s not magic bullet but they need to get to start the immigration process at least.

And if they get married before end of this year then they will have until June 2021 to apply for Eu settlement scheme.

[lemarlemar121]

Islamic marriage doesn't work even if you are face to face. It's not considered as a marriage but as a personal agreement between people. So when it comes to immigration, it has no value.

To marry in Dubai, at least one of the party must be resident. In other Emirates, both must be resident:

https://u.ae/en/information-and-service ... s/marriage

In Dubai, at least one party to the marriage contract (husband, wife or wife’s guardian) should have a residence visa in the UAE. In other emirates, both bride and groom must be UAE residents.

This probably need to be a bit more clearer An Islamic marriage is accepted if it's registered in with the relevant authority of of the country it was conducted in.
Yes if it's a verbal Nikah only and no paper work then it's not recognised.
Where I come from apart from a few religious minority marriages every marriage is islamically conducted and registered with local union council and is perfectly recognised for immigration purpose in the uk.
Even in the uk if an Islamic marriage is performed by licensed registrar from a mosque it's valid in law.

On the above link with uae government website it’s says about sharia marriage can be registered with uae court or local council and it doesn’t mention of residency requirements for that marriage.
It’s says all national and expatriates can do sharia marriage if they are both Muslim.

[lemarlemar121]

Hi everyone. I am an Eu national and I got married in August 2020 in an Islamic ceremony in an Asian country.

But I can’t make my marriage certificate from court in that country until maybe end of January 2021.
So my question is how will I get to prove marriage when my husband apply for EEA family permit maybe in February 2021.
What documents will I need to prove my marriage that happened before Brexit transition?
Any suggestions or advice are welcomed. Thanks

[kamoe]

Hi everyone. I am an Eu national and I got married in August 2020 in an Islamic ceremony in an Asian country.

But I can’t make my marriage certificate from court in that country until maybe end of January 2021.

In your previous posts I believe there has already been a discussion regarding the legality of islamic ceremonies. Has your islamic ceremony been duly registered and any other procedures completed to ensure it is valid in the UK? Or is that what you say will be done in January 2021?

So my question is how will I get to prove marriage when my husband apply for EEA family permit maybe in February 2021.

You probably mean EUSS Family Permit? The EEA route will cease to exist after the end of the transition period Dec 31st, 2020, so you cannot apply for a EEA Family permit in 2021.

What documents will I need to prove my marriage that happened before Brexit transition?

I think this depends on answer to my first question. But grosso modo the official wedding date needs to be before December 31st 2020. I do not know if completing legal procedures in 2021 can make the official wedding date backdated to the islamic ceremony date. I'll let someone with more direct experience answer this.

[CR001]

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