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British Citizenship application- Third party verification consent form

Post by Faith20 » Mon Mar 07, 2022 7:07 am

I have an urgent query regarding third party verification form and should be grateful if anyone could reply.
I have already gained British Citizenship via naturalisation in 2020. Now applying for my partner who has physical disabilities.
We live together and have children but no bank account in joint names. We receive tax credits benefit in both names as I work and receive working and child tax credits.
Do I need to sign the third party verification consent form too or only he needs to sign?

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Waiver for Life In the UK test

Post by Faith20 » Mon Mar 07, 2022 7:19 am

I have an urgent query regarding third party verification form and should be grateful if anyone could reply.
I have already gained British Citizenship via naturalisation in 2020. Now applying for my partner who has physical disabilities.
He didn’t need or did Life in the uk test or English language test for ILR.
He got severe arthritis since came to live in the UK which is ages ago.
Is that enough reason to claim waiver from both Life in the UK and English language tests exemption?
Is there only one form to be signed by doctor for both or 2 separate ones?
If GP signed waiver form is it alright or have to be Hospital doctor or specialist?
Another question is am I allowed to accompany him for his biometric appointment as he is registered disabled with very limited English language understanding?

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Re: Waiver for Life In the UK test

Post by secret.simon » Mon Mar 07, 2022 11:51 am

Have a look at the form requesting for the exemption that needs to be filled in by a "General Medical Council registered medical practitioner who is able to comment on the individual's condition." (as it refers to a GMC registered medical practioner, I believe that includes GPs as well).

In particular, the form asks "How would this condition prevent them from learning (spoken) English?" and "How would this condition prevent them from sitting the knowledge of life in the UK test or taking an English test?".

The form above applies to both the English language test and LITUK test.

You have not mentioned if your partner has ILR or not. ILR is still a requirement for applying for naturalisation.
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Re: Waiver for Life In the UK test

Post by Faith20 » Tue Mar 08, 2022 7:10 pm

Thanks a lot
Much appreciated
Yes I have checked all other conditions and they are met.
Only waiver and third party verification stuff bothers me.

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Re: Waiver for Life In the UK test

Post by yellow beard » Wed Mar 09, 2022 5:34 pm

secret.simon wrote:
Mon Mar 07, 2022 11:51 am
Have a look at the form requesting for the exemption that needs to be filled in by a "General Medical Council registered medical practitioner who is able to comment on the individual's condition." (as it refers to a GMC registered medical practioner, I believe that includes GPs as well).

In particular, the form asks "How would this condition prevent them from learning (spoken) English?" and "How would this condition prevent them from sitting the knowledge of life in the UK test or taking an English test?".

The form above applies to both the English language test and LITUK test.

You have not mentioned if your partner has ILR or not. ILR is still a requirement for applying for naturalisation.
Hello Secret Simon

Can I please ask about what deductions will be made from the application fee if the HO does not accept a specific condition as sufficient for waiver and the applicant is not willing to (or better said, unable to meet all criteria required to) proceed with the application?

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Re: Waiver for Life In the UK test

Post by secret.simon » Thu Mar 10, 2022 1:52 pm

yellow beard wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 5:34 pm
Hello Secret Simon

Can I please ask about what deductions will be made from the application fee if the HO does not accept a specific condition as sufficient for waiver and the applicant is not willing to (or better said, unable to meet all criteria required to) proceed with the application?
To the best of my knowledge, no deductions are made to the application fee.

If the application has gone past the biometrics stage, if the appplication is either withdrawn by the applicant or refused, the entire fee, except the £80 for the citizenship ceremony, is lost/kept by the Home Office.

Pages 8-10 of the Knowledge of language and life in the UK caseworker guidance suggests that the most that the caseworkers can do is to ask the applicant to have the form linked to above filled in and submitted by a medical professional. It is then upto the caseworker to evaluate the evidence and take the call.
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Re: Waiver for Life In the UK test

Post by yellow beard » Thu Mar 10, 2022 8:01 pm

secret.simon wrote:
Thu Mar 10, 2022 1:52 pm
To the best of my knowledge, no deductions are made to the application fee.

If the application has gone past the biometrics stage, if the appplication is either withdrawn by the applicant or refused, the entire fee, except the £80 for the citizenship ceremony, is lost/kept by the Home Office.

Pages 8-10 of the Knowledge of language and life in the UK caseworker guidance suggests that the most that the caseworkers can do is to ask the applicant to have the form linked to above filled in and submitted by a medical professional. It is then upto the caseworker to evaluate the evidence and take the call.
Thank you very much for your advice. From the practice, is dichotomous logic appropriate here - if a medical professional evaluates and confirms that the condition impedes one's ability to sit the tests, HO accepts it?

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Re: Waiver for Life In the UK test

Post by CR001 » Thu Mar 10, 2022 8:08 pm

yellow beard wrote:
Thu Mar 10, 2022 8:01 pm
secret.simon wrote:
Thu Mar 10, 2022 1:52 pm
To the best of my knowledge, no deductions are made to the application fee.

If the application has gone past the biometrics stage, if the appplication is either withdrawn by the applicant or refused, the entire fee, except the £80 for the citizenship ceremony, is lost/kept by the Home Office.

Pages 8-10 of the Knowledge of language and life in the UK caseworker guidance suggests that the most that the caseworkers can do is to ask the applicant to have the form linked to above filled in and submitted by a medical professional. It is then upto the caseworker to evaluate the evidence and take the call.
Thank you very much for your advice. From the practice, is dichotomous logic appropriate here - if a medical professional evaluates and confirms that the condition impedes one's ability to sit the tests, HO accepts it?
No, it is not always accepted and if that happens, UKVI requests the tests within a set timeframe, usually about 10 days, otherwise the application is refused and you lose the fee.
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Re: Waiver for Life In the UK test

Post by yellow beard » Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:02 pm

CR001 wrote:
Thu Mar 10, 2022 8:08 pm
No, it is not always accepted and if that happens, UKVI requests the tests within a set timeframe, usually about 10 days, otherwise the application is refused and you lose the fee.
Thank you! Just to be clear - do you lose full fee or the £80 mentioned above going towards the ceremony? it is a very material difference ;)

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Re: Waiver for Life In the UK test

Post by CR001 » Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:34 pm

yellow beard wrote:
Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:02 pm
CR001 wrote:
Thu Mar 10, 2022 8:08 pm
No, it is not always accepted and if that happens, UKVI requests the tests within a set timeframe, usually about 10 days, otherwise the application is refused and you lose the fee.
Thank you! Just to be clear - do you lose full fee or the £80 mentioned above going towards the ceremony? it is a very material difference ;)
You get £80 back, which is the ceremony fee. The rest you lose.
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Re: Waiver for Life In the UK test

Post by secret.simon » Fri Mar 11, 2022 7:50 am

yellow beard wrote:
Thu Mar 10, 2022 8:01 pm
if a medical professional evaluates and confirms that the condition impedes one's ability to sit the tests, HO accepts it?
Not necessarily and not always.

Not citizenship-related, but a family member of mine, who has a problem with walking, got the consultant at the hospital (not the GP, but the specialist consultant) where they have been getting treated for about a decade, to write a letter in support of an application for a discretionary freedom pass for them. The application was rejected, that in their own assessment, the walking condition was not so bad as to require a discretionary freedom pass to be issued.

So, just because a doctor says so does not mean that the Home Office caseworker will agree.

In your case, @yellow beard, as your parent is already 58, it may be better to wait for a few more years till the age of automatic exemption for KoLL is reached.
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Re: Waiver for Life In the UK test

Post by yellow beard » Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:52 am

CR001 wrote:
Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:34 pm
You get £80 back, which is the ceremony fee. The rest you lose.
Neat business, should I say. Thank you for your help, CR001!

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