Travelling to Schengen countries with a UK family permit?

[toabetterchange]

Hi everyone,

I'm here again with a problem, I hope someone can help me.

I have a UK family permit NOT a residence card which starts this october, me and my partner will move to Scotland but we want to visit some countries for 1/2 weeks before start living there.

I was today in 4 consulates in Sydney trying to ask what documents they need in order to get the Schengen visa and the answer was that I have to pay, to show insurance of 30,000 euros, invitation letter, travel plan, etc.

The dutch consulate told me that I needed to be married in order to get the visa free. The germany consulate said I need to show a travel plan, and each said different things.

They asked me which country will be the longest stay I said we dont know, we want to be 1 day in Berlin and another day in Warsow , another in Rome , etc, they said NO you have to know which is it.

I dont know if registered relationship is also treated as family member? I show them my UK family permit and said I didnt marry but the answer was NO

I really dont know how to deal with them as they dont know much about this topic. I have 4 week left to travel to the UK , and normally the Schengen visa takes 3 weeks? I am scared we wont have our passports on time?

I would like any advise as I am new applying for this visa, Can be enough having the UK permit?

I have found this:

Question no 2: Does the visa applicant fall under the definition of “family memberâ€

[amazighman]

the problem here is that not all EU embassies and border officers do really understand the EU law ,

i just checked the german embassy s web in the uk, they write that a spouse or civil partner of an EEA citizen can travel visa free to germany (schengen) but if holding a valid residency permit from the UK(EEA2 residency stamp).

well..if you plan to get a visa,that is what i think you should do, i am sure that visa must be issued free of charge,and without loads of supporting documents.but what am sure about is that it is much more easier to get one if you are married.....but you can submit a civil partnership certificate and it might be accepted as well.

check this web for better details.

http://www.london.diplo.de/Vertretung/l ... seite.html

good luck

[toabetterchange]

Thank you amazighman

I did a research in some of the websites of the consulates in Sydney and it is funny when I asked in the Dutch consulate about the visa , they said that only"married" can have free visa, and in their own website they have written that is should be free for partners too.

Family members of EU/EEA nationals

If you are a family member of an EU/EEA or Swiss national, you may qualify for an accelerated free visa procedure as long as you meet the following criteria:
you are a first-degree family member (this includes a spouse, partner or child who is under 21) of an EU/EEA or Swiss national; and
that EU/EEA national is travelling to or is residing in a member state other than that of which he/she is a national; and
you are accompanying the EU/EEA national or planning to join him/her.

Most of the websites of the consulates dont have information about family members for the visa ONLY the Norway consulate is "updated"

Family members who are covered under this are:
· Spouse/partner of an EEA national

EEA family members applying for a Schengen visa must submit the following supporting documents:

Application form , Passport/travel document, Photo, Flight itinerary, Marriage Certificate (if you are married to an EEA national) and The EEA national's original passport.


http://www.norway.org.au/Embassy/Visa-a ... lications/

http://australia.nlembassy.org/Products ... ternelink4

How to convince the Consulate of Germany or Poland?

[Directive/2004/38/EC]

You are trying to do a lot all at once.

Have you actually tried submitting an application to the dutch or german or other embassy? Or was this just abstract questions?

You are most likely a direct family member: http://eumovement.wordpress.com/2008/04 ... ly-member/ Note that strictly speaking the requirement is that

(b) the partner with whom the Union citizen has contracted a registered partnership, on the basis of the legislation of a [EU/EEA] Member State, if the legislation of the host Member State treats registered partnerships as equivalent to marriage and in accordance with the conditions laid down in the relevant legislation of the host Member State;

The UK recognizes your partnership even though it was not done by an EU member state. It is possible that some other EU member states will not recognize your partnership.

But most likely you are just dealing with the too frequently ignorant embassy staff who do not know the law.

[amazighman]

i dont to which countries you are willing to travel to.

but you can just edit your travel plans,and start with the country you apply for its visa...

once you get into your first country, lets say germany, they just stamp your visa, after asking you few questions ,after you get into germany, then you are free to go anywhere else you want

it wont be a problem....