ESC

Click the "allow" button if you want to receive important news and updates from immigrationboards.com


Immigrationboards.com: Immigration, work visa and work permit discussion board

Welcome to immigrationboards.com!

Login Register Do not show

Who provides proof of relationship?

General UK immigration & work permits; don't post job search or family related topics!

Please use this section of the board if there is no specific section for your query.

Moderators: Casa, archigabe, CR001, push, JAJ, ca.funke, Amber, zimba, vinny, Obie, EUsmileWEallsmile, batleykhan, meself2, geriatrix, John, ChetanOjha, Administrator

Belfastbowler
Newbie
Posts: 32
Joined: Tue Jun 25, 2019 8:53 am
United Kingdom

A little confused.

Post by Belfastbowler » Sun Nov 06, 2022 11:49 pm

Hi,

Sorry if this seems like something I should already know but I am getting married abroad soon and will apply for a spouse visa for my wife shortly after.

My question is can I as the husband/sponsor apply myself for the visa for her from within the UK or does my future wife have to apply from her own country?

J

meself2
Moderator
Posts: 3727
Joined: Mon Sep 06, 2021 5:10 pm
Ireland

Re: A little confused.

Post by meself2 » Mon Nov 07, 2022 12:04 am

If I understand correctly, they are not in the UK now, which means they have to apply from their country. She will need your details, but the application should be lodged from outside the UK.
How to apply
{...}

Outside the UK
You must apply online from outside the UK.
Not a qualified immigration adviser. Use links and references given to gain confirmation and/or extra information.

AmazonianX
Respected Guru
Posts: 8127
Joined: Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:09 pm
United Kingdom

Re: A little confused.

Post by AmazonianX » Mon Nov 07, 2022 5:02 am

Belfastbowler wrote:
Sun Nov 06, 2022 11:49 pm
Hi,

Sorry if this seems like something I should already know but I am getting married abroad soon and will apply for a spouse visa for my wife shortly after.

My question is can I as the husband/sponsor apply myself for the visa for her from within the UK or does my future wife have to apply from her own country? You can fill the application for her online

J

User avatar
Ticktack
Respected Guru
Posts: 2735
Joined: Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:35 am
United Kingdom

Re: A little confused.

Post by Ticktack » Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:07 am

Belfastbowler wrote:
Sun Nov 06, 2022 11:49 pm
Hi,

Sorry if this seems like something I should already know but I am getting married abroad soon and will apply for a spouse visa for my wife shortly after.

My question is can I as the husband/sponsor apply myself for the visa for her from within the UK or does my future wife have to apply from her own country?

J
As rightly stated by AmazonianX, application can be filled online from anywhere by either of you. However, she would need to attend the biometrics at her home country of country of residence.
No sin in failing, you just have to try and try again!

Belfastbowler
Newbie
Posts: 32
Joined: Tue Jun 25, 2019 8:53 am
United Kingdom

Re: A little confused.

Post by Belfastbowler » Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:03 am

Hi,

Thanks again for your help.
Are you saying I can apply and make the payments online but in her own country she needs to bring all the paperwork, ie proof of wedding and relationship?

Sorry to go off topic but as we are getting married in Vietnam apart from my proof of my divorce from previous marriage is there any other paperwork I need to bring from the UK with me?

Cheers

J

AmazonianX
Respected Guru
Posts: 8127
Joined: Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:09 pm
United Kingdom

Re: A little confused.

Post by AmazonianX » Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:38 am

Belfastbowler wrote:
Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:03 am
Hi,

Thanks again for your help.
Are you saying I can apply and make the payments online but in her own country she needs to bring all the paperwork, ie proof of wedding and relationship? Yes, she will attend the biometrics appointment physically/in person in Vietnam

Sorry to go off topic but as we are getting married in Vietnam apart from my proof of my divorce from previous marriage is there any other paperwork I need to bring from the UK with me? All supporting documents are to be scanned and uploaded online before she attends the appointment. She will only go with her original passport and biometrics appointment confirmation on the day of appointment. If you require further clarification do not hesitate to ask

Cheers

Belfastbowler
Newbie
Posts: 32
Joined: Tue Jun 25, 2019 8:53 am
United Kingdom

Who provides proof of relationship?

Post by Belfastbowler » Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:32 am

Hi guys,

Can I just ask who is the one to hold onto the proof of relationship documents and submit them, is it myself the husband/sponsor in the UK or my wife/applicant in her own country of Vietnam?

I will be the one to pay online for everything but we are confused on what happens next.

Thanks in advance

J

User avatar
Ticktack
Respected Guru
Posts: 2735
Joined: Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:35 am
United Kingdom

Re: Who provides proof of relationship?

Post by Ticktack » Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:24 am

Belfastbowler wrote:
Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:32 am
Hi guys,

Can I just ask who is the one to hold onto the proof of relationship documents and submit them, is it myself the husband/sponsor in the UK or my wife/applicant in her own country of Vietnam?

I will be the one to pay online for everything but we are confused on what happens next.

Thanks in advance

J
The onus is on the applicant to provide all documents to be granted a visa. Soft copies are what is required.
Look at this as a bank transaction. You want someone to be paid a cheque you wrote. The person has to be the one to produce the ID and any other things requested by the Bank. The bank doesn't care if you handed it to he/she to present them. They only know that they are dealing with that person.
No sin in failing, you just have to try and try again!

Belfastbowler
Newbie
Posts: 32
Joined: Tue Jun 25, 2019 8:53 am
United Kingdom

Re: Who provides proof of relationship?

Post by Belfastbowler » Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:41 am

To everyone who has replied to my questions I really appreciate it.

Instead of starting a new thread if it is ok can I ask another question.

It is going to take a week before we get the marriage papers and I will be back home again but my question is does all the paperwork need to be ready when applying for the visa or can I start it with all the documents except the marriage certificate (which can be sent shortly after) or does everything need to be ready?

Thanks in advance.

J

User avatar
Ticktack
Respected Guru
Posts: 2735
Joined: Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:35 am
United Kingdom

Re: Who provides proof of relationship?

Post by Ticktack » Tue Dec 06, 2022 9:22 am

Belfastbowler wrote:
Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:41 am
To everyone who has replied to my questions I really appreciate it.

Instead of starting a new thread if it is ok can I ask another question.

It is going to take a week before we get the marriage papers and I will be back home again but my question is does all the paperwork need to be ready when applying for the visa or can I start it with all the documents except the marriage certificate (which can be sent shortly after) or does everything need to be ready?

Thanks in advance.

J
Please always continue all your questions on this thread. This allows others that might have similar problems follow your journey and learn from it.

You would have one shot at getting it right. That means when you make the application, all documents should be on the go and presented at once. A decision that might affect you negatively could be made on a document you didn't submit but you probably had.
Hence, you never rush the process. Patience is a virtue.
No sin in failing, you just have to try and try again!

Belfastbowler
Newbie
Posts: 32
Joined: Tue Jun 25, 2019 8:53 am
United Kingdom

Re: Who provides proof of relationship?

Post by Belfastbowler » Wed Dec 14, 2022 5:47 pm

Bit of a nightmare but finally got married.
Can I ask now that I am filling in the Spouse visa online for my wife when asking about her surname do I put in her new surname even though her passport still has her maiden name?

User avatar
CR001
Moderator
Posts: 88909
Joined: Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:55 pm
Location: London
Mood:
South Africa

Re: Who provides proof of relationship?

Post by CR001 » Wed Dec 14, 2022 5:55 pm

Surname as it is in her passport if she has not updated and got a new passport.
Char (CR001 not Casa)
In life you cannot press the Backspace button!!
Please DO NOT send me a PM for immigration advice. I reserve the right to ignore the PM and not respond.

Belfastbowler
Newbie
Posts: 32
Joined: Tue Jun 25, 2019 8:53 am
United Kingdom

Re: Who provides proof of relationship?

Post by Belfastbowler » Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:01 pm

I think i know the answer already but thought I would ask anyway.

I live in Northern Ireland and I am bringing my wife to UK via Spouse Visa.

I assume I cannot book her flight to arrive in Dublin?
I only ask as the price is better but I appreciate it is not the UK.

J

meself2
Moderator
Posts: 3727
Joined: Mon Sep 06, 2021 5:10 pm
Ireland

Re: Who provides proof of relationship?

Post by meself2 » Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:16 pm

Belfastbowler wrote:
Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:01 pm
I think i know the answer already but thought I would ask anyway.

I live in Northern Ireland and I am bringing my wife to UK via Spouse Visa.

I assume I cannot book her flight to arrive in Dublin?
I only ask as the price is better but I appreciate it is not the UK.

J
I would strongly recommend against it. There's no border control, so she'd have some extra steps and shenanigans to do in order to record her arrival in the UK, if it's even possible; I asked PSNI about a month ago if there's a way I could get my visa stamped, still no reply.
And that's assuming she's a non visa national to go to ROI; if she needs a visa, well, she needs to apply for an Irish one, which is extra unnecessary hassle.
Not a qualified immigration adviser. Use links and references given to gain confirmation and/or extra information.

secret.simon
Moderator
Posts: 11528
Joined: Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:29 pm

Re: Who provides proof of relationship?

Post by secret.simon » Sun Jan 08, 2023 9:27 am

Belfastbowler wrote:
Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:01 pm
I live in Northern Ireland
Were you born in Northern Ireland to at least one British or Irish parent or a parent on ILR?
I am not a lawyer or immigration advisor. My statements/comments do not constitute legal advice. E&OE. Please do not PM me for advice.

Belfastbowler
Newbie
Posts: 32
Joined: Tue Jun 25, 2019 8:53 am
United Kingdom

Re: Who provides proof of relationship?

Post by Belfastbowler » Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:02 am

Yes I am born and bred in Northern Ireland. I sort of thought bringing her through Dublin on a UK spouse visa would probably only make things difficult.

secret.simon
Moderator
Posts: 11528
Joined: Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:29 pm

Re: Who provides proof of relationship?

Post by secret.simon » Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:09 pm

Belfastbowler wrote:
Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:02 am
Yes I am born and bred in Northern Ireland.
Was at least one of your parents a British or Irish citizen at the time of your birth?
I am not a lawyer or immigration advisor. My statements/comments do not constitute legal advice. E&OE. Please do not PM me for advice.

Belfastbowler
Newbie
Posts: 32
Joined: Tue Jun 25, 2019 8:53 am
United Kingdom

Re: Who provides proof of relationship?

Post by Belfastbowler » Tue Jan 10, 2023 6:06 am

Both my parents have always been uk citizens

secret.simon
Moderator
Posts: 11528
Joined: Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:29 pm

Re: Who provides proof of relationship?

Post by secret.simon » Tue Jan 10, 2023 7:52 am

Since you were born in Northern Ireland to British parents, you should be able to sponsor your spouse under the EU Settled Status scheme, as a "relevant person of Northern Ireland".
Applying if you're the family member of an eligible person of Northern Ireland wrote:You can apply if you have a family member who is an eligible person of Northern Ireland. You do not have to be from the EU, Switzerland, Norway, Iceland or Liechtenstein.

The person of Northern Ireland who is your family member must:

be a British, Irish or dual British and Irish citizen
have been born in Northern Ireland
at the time of their birth, have at least one parent who held British, Irish or dual British and Irish citizenship (or was without any restriction on their period of residence)
have been living in the UK by 31 December 2020
For her entry into the UK, I would suggest entering via a UK airport, such as perhaps Liverpool or Manchester. That way, her entry will be on the UKV&I systems. The two of you could then take the ferry over to Northern Ireland.

Subsequent entries could be via Dublin.
I am not a lawyer or immigration advisor. My statements/comments do not constitute legal advice. E&OE. Please do not PM me for advice.

meself2
Moderator
Posts: 3727
Joined: Mon Sep 06, 2021 5:10 pm
Ireland

Re: Who provides proof of relationship?

Post by meself2 » Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:20 am

secret.simon wrote:
Tue Jan 10, 2023 7:52 am
Subsequent entries could be via Dublin.
judging by post history, wife has Vietnamese nationality; Vietnamese citizens need a visa for ROI, so unless OP's wife is willing to get another visa, Dublin is out of the question I'm afraid.
Not a qualified immigration adviser. Use links and references given to gain confirmation and/or extra information.

Belfastbowler
Newbie
Posts: 32
Joined: Tue Jun 25, 2019 8:53 am
United Kingdom

Re: Who provides proof of relationship?

Post by Belfastbowler » Wed Jan 11, 2023 10:45 am

Thanks again for your help guys.

Belfastbowler
Newbie
Posts: 32
Joined: Tue Jun 25, 2019 8:53 am
United Kingdom

Re: Who provides proof of relationship?

Post by Belfastbowler » Fri Feb 24, 2023 5:41 pm

Hi again been 3 months now waiting on my wife's spouse visa. I got a email today saying not all the information was there but it was all uploaded but I will send again. Just trying to remember what this means again if anyone can help "sponsor's employment letter containing mandatory information" is this just proof of employment?

AmazonianX
Respected Guru
Posts: 8127
Joined: Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:09 pm
United Kingdom

Re: Who provides proof of relationship?

Post by AmazonianX » Fri Feb 24, 2023 7:07 pm

Belfastbowler wrote:
Fri Feb 24, 2023 5:41 pm
Hi again been 3 months now waiting on my wife's spouse visa. I got a email today saying not all the information was there but it was all uploaded but I will send again. Just trying to remember what this means again if anyone can help "sponsor's employment letter containing mandatory information" is this just proof of employment?
The employer’s letter should confirm the below:

you or your partner are employed there
the job title or position you or your partner hold
how long you or your partner have worked there
the type of contract (for example, permanent, fixed term)
what you or your partner earn before tax and National Insurance
how long you or your partner have been paid your current salary
the payslips are genuine

Belfastbowler
Newbie
Posts: 32
Joined: Tue Jun 25, 2019 8:53 am
United Kingdom

Re: Who provides proof of relationship?

Post by Belfastbowler » Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:56 pm

I hope it is ok to ask another question.

Can my wife who will arrive here on a spouse visa travel with me on holiday to for example Spain?

John

AmazonianX
Respected Guru
Posts: 8127
Joined: Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:09 pm
United Kingdom

Re: Who provides proof of relationship?

Post by AmazonianX » Tue Feb 28, 2023 3:54 am

Belfastbowler wrote:
Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:56 pm
I hope it is ok to ask another question.

Can my wife who will arrive here on a spouse visa travel with me on holiday to for example Spain?

John
With her holding or having the appropriate visa/entry permit to the destination country itt won't be an issue. Spouse visa does not limit her travelling out.

Locked