I will not return my BRP within 5 Days.

I attended my ceremony on 26th Jan, no one told me about returning the BRP. How should I know the new rule if they do not inform me!
I think this rule will not be applicable for me as I used theAN from from last October where there was no instruction about returning the BPR.

abdullahJ wrote:I attended my ceremony on 26th Jan, no one told me about returning the BRP. How should I know the new rule if they do not inform me!
I think this rule will not be applicable for me as I used theAN from from last October where there was no instruction about returning the BPR.

Do let us know when you get your £1000 fine.

solospy wrote:

abdullahJ wrote:I attended my ceremony on 26th Jan, no one told me about returning the BRP. How should I know the new rule if they do not inform me!
I think this rule will not be applicable for me as I used theAN from from last October where there was no instruction about returning the BPR.

Do let us know when you get your £1000 fine.

Why not return it? It's invalid now, so of no use to you for travel.

Why did you guys applied for British passport if you were in madly love with your BRP

abdullahJ wrote:How should I know the new rule if they do not inform me!
I think this rule will not be applicable for me

This quote reminds of so many people on the forum complaining about the dec 2014 rule change for overstayers. They too were saying this rule isn't applicable to them because they applied for citizenship before the rule change.

Your £1000 contribution to HO would be put to good use. Then you can let us know how ignorance of rule or negligence on your part helps you.

You prefer not to return your BRP, It is your decision. Please don't brag/discuss about it on a public forum leaving electronic trail.

Because you are now aware of a rule from HO, so please be a law abiding citizen and return the brp card. It is not a souvenir.

r2d2bruno wrote:

abdullahJ wrote:How should I know the new rule if they do not inform me!
I think this rule will not be applicable for me

This quote reminds of so many people on the forum complaining about the dec 2014 rule change for overstayers. They too were saying this rule isn't applicable to them because they applied for citizenship before the rule change.

Your £1000 contribution to HO would be put to good use. Then you can let us know how ignorance of rule or negligence on your part helps you.

You prefer not to return your BRP, It is your decision. Please don't brag/discuss about it on a public forum leaving electronic trail.

Because you are now aware of a rule from HO, so please be a law abiding citizen and return the brp card. It is not a souvenir.

I would happily pay the fine in court if I am proven wrong. This is not about being a law abiding citizen or not, I just don't believe that this rule is applicable to me based on my understanding. No one is bragging about anything. So far I have not seen anything constructive in your post. If you refer to my initial post you will find my detailed rationale of why I believe this rule is not applicable to me. If you do not agree with my rationale, please logically refute my reasoning. instead of making uncalled for post like this.

I know a few other people like me on this forum who need to keep their BRP (even though it is no longer valid). I do not have a choice and it is a loss for me either way as I have unavoidable travel coming up. It is either this £1000 or more than £1000 in flight amendments. (Now please don't go ballistic about not booking travel and all that- you don't know my circumstances). I do not feel that I am breaking any law as I believe that this rule is not applicable to me. If HO disagrees, I would gladly pay the fine.

eddybaloch wrote:

r2d2bruno wrote:

abdullahJ wrote:How should I know the new rule if they do not inform me!
I think this rule will not be applicable for me

This quote reminds of so many people on the forum complaining about the dec 2014 rule change for overstayers. They too were saying this rule isn't applicable to them because they applied for citizenship before the rule change.

Your £1000 contribution to HO would be put to good use. Then you can let us know how ignorance of rule or negligence on your part helps you.

You prefer not to return your BRP, It is your decision. Please don't brag/discuss about it on a public forum leaving electronic trail.

Because you are now aware of a rule from HO, so please be a law abiding citizen and return the brp card. It is not a souvenir.

I would happily pay the fine in court if I am proven wrong. This is not about being a law abiding citizen or not, I just don't believe that this rule is applicable to me based on my understanding. No one is bragging about anything. So far I have not seen anything constructive in your post. If you refer to my initial post you will find my detailed rationale of why I believe this rule is not applicable to me. If you do not agree with my rationale, please logically refute my reasoning. instead of making uncalled for post like this.

eddybaloch
Not sure what made you think this post was addressed to you when I intentionally added a quote from abdullahJ.

But I agree, you have your right to take offense even when the response is not meant for you.

This might be a stupid question, but why are people so adamant about keeping their BRP to travel? What's wrong with just using your original passport

Waiting to be shot down with some obvious answer now

ohara wrote:This might be a stupid question, but why are people so adamant about keeping their BRP to travel when it has been superseded by Naturalistaion and the BRP card is no longer valid? What's wrong with just using your original passport

Waiting to be shot down with some obvious answer now

Corrected that for you

ohara wrote:This might be a stupid question, but why are people so adamant about keeping their BRP to travel? What's wrong with just using your original passport

Waiting to be shot down with some obvious answer now

It's not about passports but it's all about visas.

People believe that, when travelling, they need to hold onto their BRP as they require this BRP as evidence of a British entry 'visa'.
That is, something to show in order to be permitted (by an airline) to board a flight back to UK.

It is not understood that, increasingly, airlines check such documents electronically and so are able to detect that a BRP is invalid.
(- as UK BRPs will be 'very soon' after the fat lady sings at a citizenship oath-taking ceremony).

So it is not as simple as waving a BRP under a check-in clerk's nose & getting waved aboard a plane.

Ah of course a visa, having never needed a visa in my life I didn't really think of that

ohara wrote:Ah of course a visa, having never needed a visa in my life I didn't really think of that

Welcome to our world.

ohara wrote:Ah of course a visa, having never needed a visa in my life I didn't really think of that

I believe that you have a Finnish passport, so I am not surprised that you are generally unaccustomed to applying for a visa.

Finnish and other Scandinavian passports have traditionally been the passports with visa-free or visa-on-arrival to most countries in the world. The UK and Canada comes at second or third place in comparative tables, with the US running in fourth or fifth position.

It's HO laziness that they don't change their approval letter templates by adding this information. Although it's rule now but due to HO laziness it will not be enforceable so easy. If HO not tell in writing to those applied before January version of form and council not say in writing then how can it be enforceable? It's a unorganized non-sense.

Ignorantia juris non excusat - Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

Hello everyone!

Update from my side:
04-02-2016: 10 Days passed since the expiry of 5 days. No fine received to date. I have received my Passport today so BRP is going back.

Yes that's correct! BRP is going back. No more 'forced ignorance' required.

Seriously don't understand this attitude. Good for you if you sending it back, i dont know why moderators allow this kind of thread being created in the first place.

Well that has worked out for you then, which is good.

This thread will now be locked.