ESC

Click the "allow" button if you want to receive important news and updates from immigrationboards.com


Immigrationboards.com: Immigration, work visa and work permit discussion board

Welcome to immigrationboards.com!

Login Register Do not show

FAO: Forum moderators

Post comments about workpermit.com website, don't post information related to immigration questions, work permit advice, etc.

Moderators: Casa, push, JAJ, ca.funke, Amber, zimba, vinny, Obie, EUsmileWEallsmile, batleykhan, meself2, geriatrix, John, ChetanOjha, archigabe, Administrator

Locked
i.need.help
Member of Standing
Posts: 372
Joined: Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:20 pm

FAO: Forum moderators

Post by i.need.help » Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:01 am

Instead of telling members a thread is 4 years old (for example) and that the original poster hasn't logged in since X number of years, therefore not to expect them to reply.. Why not just lock all threads which are over 6 months or a year old.

That way you don't need to keep repeating yourselves when a new member (usually) bumps up a very old topic. It just doesn't make sense, to keep telling members not to bump up old threads or not to wait for a reply, when all you mods need to do is to lock all old threads, to solve the problem.

This will also keep the main page clear of old threads and should encourage members to start new threads with their questions.

Just a common sense suggestion, feel free to ignore it or act upon it, up to you.

:D
TIMELINE

Spouse Visa (Entry Clearance) granted on 20-02-15
FLR-M (Extension) granted on 24-08-17
ILR (SET-M) not due until 2020

Views and opinions provided by myself, should not be relied upon as professional advice.

User avatar
CR001
Moderator
Posts: 87004
Joined: Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:55 pm
Location: London
Mood:
South Africa

Re: FAO: FORUM MODERATORS

Post by CR001 » Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:36 am

Well that would be far more time consuming than commenting as we do wouldn't it. There certainly isn't an 'army of moderators' to do this. At most there are 5 active mods and 2/3 online at any one time.
Char (CR001 not Casa)
In life you cannot press the Backspace button!!
Please DO NOT send me a PM for immigration advice. I reserve the right to ignore the PM and not respond.

i.need.help
Member of Standing
Posts: 372
Joined: Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:20 pm

Re: FAO: FORUM MODERATORS

Post by i.need.help » Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:44 am

CR001 wrote:Well that would be far more time consuming than commenting as we do wouldn't it.
Not at all.. You should have the option to mass lock threads all in one go. If you don't, then a super moderator or the administrator will definitely have the option to do it.

The main page should be populated with only new threads, not cluttered with old threads, where mods are saying "this is an old thread etc…"
TIMELINE

Spouse Visa (Entry Clearance) granted on 20-02-15
FLR-M (Extension) granted on 24-08-17
ILR (SET-M) not due until 2020

Views and opinions provided by myself, should not be relied upon as professional advice.

User avatar
CR001
Moderator
Posts: 87004
Joined: Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:55 pm
Location: London
Mood:
South Africa

Re: FAO: FORUM MODERATORS

Post by CR001 » Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:47 am

Not as simple as that unfortunately. Suggest ignore the threads then where we comment as such but most new posts in old threads are removed/split to a their own topic anyway.
Char (CR001 not Casa)
In life you cannot press the Backspace button!!
Please DO NOT send me a PM for immigration advice. I reserve the right to ignore the PM and not respond.

User avatar
Casa
Moderator
Posts: 25686
Joined: Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:32 pm

Re: FAO: FORUM MODERATORS

Post by Casa » Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:51 am

Old threads only appear when a member posts in them. There is no 'super moderator' and this isn't within the role of the board administrator. Can you imagine how many old threads a search would throw up and the time that would take? You'll just have to put up with reading a comment from mods now and then about out-of-date information. After all, there really aren't that many in a day.,, :|
(Casa, not CR001)
Please don't send me PMs asking for immigration advice on posts that are on the open forum. If I haven't responded there, it's because I don't have the answer. I'm a moderator, not a legal professional.

i.need.help
Member of Standing
Posts: 372
Joined: Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:20 pm

Re: FAO: FORUM MODERATORS

Post by i.need.help » Mon Jun 20, 2016 11:15 am

CR001 wrote:Not as simple as that unfortunately. Suggest ignore the threads then where we comment as such but most new posts in old threads are removed/split to a their own topic anyway.
Either you don't have the option available to you or you're unaware of it or this forum is out of date and needs to be updated. Because the option I have mentioned is standard on most, if not all other forum softwares and it is very simple to use.

Having old threads cluttering the main pages, doesn't bother me one bit. My suggestion was for the forum itself and for you moderators.
TIMELINE

Spouse Visa (Entry Clearance) granted on 20-02-15
FLR-M (Extension) granted on 24-08-17
ILR (SET-M) not due until 2020

Views and opinions provided by myself, should not be relied upon as professional advice.

i.need.help
Member of Standing
Posts: 372
Joined: Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:20 pm

Re: FAO: FORUM MODERATORS

Post by i.need.help » Mon Jun 20, 2016 11:46 am

Casa wrote:Old threads only appear when a member posts in them. There is no 'super moderator' and this isn't within the role of the board administrator. Can you imagine how many old threads a search would throw up and the time that would take? You'll just have to put up with reading a comment from mods now and then about out-of-date information. After all, there really aren't that many in a day.,, :|
No I can't imagine it because I know how the function works, takes a few clicks and job done.

Anyways, as I mentioned, it doesn't bother me at all. Carry on as things are.
TIMELINE

Spouse Visa (Entry Clearance) granted on 20-02-15
FLR-M (Extension) granted on 24-08-17
ILR (SET-M) not due until 2020

Views and opinions provided by myself, should not be relied upon as professional advice.

User avatar
Casa
Moderator
Posts: 25686
Joined: Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:32 pm

Re: FAO: Forum moderators

Post by Casa » Mon Jun 20, 2016 11:51 am

I believe that's best. As you've said, it doesn't bother you and we haven't received any other objections.
(Casa, not CR001)
Please don't send me PMs asking for immigration advice on posts that are on the open forum. If I haven't responded there, it's because I don't have the answer. I'm a moderator, not a legal professional.

Amber
Moderator
Posts: 17456
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:20 am
Location: England, UK
Mood:

Re: FAO: Forum moderators

Post by Amber » Tue Jun 21, 2016 1:18 pm

I believe it is possible for threads to have an expiry date, after which they lock. I'd never really considered it before. If for example, a thread remains inactive for x number of months it would lock. Think it's an additional code (computer code) that's required to do that. Maybe it's worth considering?
**this forum is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice**
Click here to send me a PM regarding an offensive post. Do NOT PM me for immigration advice.

User avatar
Casa
Moderator
Posts: 25686
Joined: Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:32 pm

Re: FAO: Forum moderators

Post by Casa » Tue Jun 21, 2016 1:23 pm

The issue would be if the OP returned to update their thread (which actually happened today from 2015), they would have to start a fresh one if the original had been locked.
(Casa, not CR001)
Please don't send me PMs asking for immigration advice on posts that are on the open forum. If I haven't responded there, it's because I don't have the answer. I'm a moderator, not a legal professional.

User avatar
CR001
Moderator
Posts: 87004
Joined: Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:55 pm
Location: London
Mood:
South Africa

Re: FAO: Forum moderators

Post by CR001 » Tue Jun 21, 2016 1:30 pm

Casa wrote:The issue would be if the OP returned to update their thread (which actually happened today from 2015), they would have to start a fresh one if the original had been locked.
Agree, there have been a few recently. It would be the case especially for a thread which went to long running appeal etc. and the OP wanted to update.
Char (CR001 not Casa)
In life you cannot press the Backspace button!!
Please DO NOT send me a PM for immigration advice. I reserve the right to ignore the PM and not respond.

secret.simon
Moderator
Posts: 11039
Joined: Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:29 pm

Re: FAO: Forum moderators

Post by secret.simon » Tue Jun 21, 2016 2:40 pm

I hesitate to enter this discussion as the moderators have broadly argued against this suggestion.

However, I believe that the OP was motivated by a wish to help the moderators, so that the moderators did not need to keep an eye out for zombie threads being resurrected years after they were last updated. And I agree with his suggestion.

Technical aspects
I did some quick research online, as I am sure that other forums (discussing any topic under the sun) have pretty much the same issue. I believe that these forums are run on the PhpBB platform and found these threads online that contain some modifiable code that the admins can use.

https://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtop ... 1&start=15

https://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtop ... #p10895205

Moderating aspects
I take onboard CR001's and Casa's arguments about OPs wishing to update their old threads after a long time with the status of their legal cases or long running appeals.

But anecdotally, I would say that 8 out of 10 cases that are added to after 6 months to a year are by a person other than the OP, who has a similar (sometimes very tenuously so) case to the OP. In most such cases, the moderators have had to detach that post to a new thread.

I suggest that the system work in reverse. All threads should lock automatically after six months of the last post (so it is important to understand the code updates suggested above). There can be a link/button there for the OP to request the moderators to unlock the thread or they can post the request to unlock the thread in the "Comments about discussion boards" forum, as they currently do to change the username or delete accounts.

That way, people can still view old threads without accidentally reviving them.

Related suggestion
On that point, I also suggest that threads older than two years in the UK Immigration forums (both Tier and non-Tier) carry a health warning that the law has likely changed since then and to post a new thread confirming the law rather than assuming that it has remained the same. This would be particularly useful for people who find the forums off an external search engine.
I am not a lawyer or immigration advisor. My statements/comments do not constitute legal advice. E&OE. Please do not PM me for advice.

vinny
Moderator
Posts: 32803
Joined: Tue Sep 25, 2007 7:58 pm

Re: FAO: Forum moderators

Post by vinny » Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:33 am

CR001 wrote:
Casa wrote:The issue would be if the OP returned to update their thread (which actually happened today from 2015), they would have to start a fresh one if the original had been locked.
Agree, there have been a few recently. It would be the case especially for a thread which went to long running appeal etc. and the OP wanted to update.
Another example.

We expect users to continue in their topic, so auto locking them may be inconsistent with this policy and counterproductive.

The process for Long residence immigrants may be at least 10 years.
This is not intended to be legal or professional advice in any jurisdiction. Please click on any given links for further information. Refer to the source of any quotes.
We do not inherit the Earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.

Locked
cron