Fiance Visa - Advice on Supporting Documents

Hi,

Apologies if this is a repeat question. My fiance from Pakistan is planning to visit me in UK. She's been visiting UK off and on previously. We plan to do nikah (i.e. marry but with simple cermony) here. Then when she goes back, she will apply for spouse visa from Pakistan.

Will this cause any problems?

Thanks!

In order to marry in the UK she will have to apply for a Marriage Visitor visa from Pakistan.

An Islamic marriage ceremony performed in the UK (without also marrying in a Registry Office) won't be recognised under British law.

Casa wrote: ↑

Sat Sep 23, 2017 8:59 am

In order to marry in the UK she will have to apply for a Marriage Visitor visa from Pakistan.

An Islamic marriage ceremony performed in the UK (without also marrying in a Registry Office) won't be recognised under British law.

I see, thanks. In terms of requirements, is marriage visitor visa any different from visitor visa?

Any links to threads on this forum and elsewhere will help : )

Not sure of the OP and his intended are eligible for a Marriage Visitor visa.

One of its requirement is

you’re not planning to stay or settle in the UK after your marriage or civil partnership

Why not get married in Pakistan? It would probably be a whole lot faster to do and then apply.

Alternatively, apply for a fiancé visa, get married in the UK and then start off the FLR(M) straightaway.

Also see this thread on fiancé visa application.

@secret.simon I believe they may qualify if the intention is for the spouse to return to their home country after the marriage in the UK and before the Marriage Visitor visa expires.

However I agree that your other suggestions would be better options, especially as a Marriage Visitor visa will require the fiancee to submit evidence of strong ties to her home country, which in the circumstances will be a challenge.

Right, so although we are engaged, there is no official document to prove that. That's why fiance visa might be tricky. She will visit me in December anyway, so the idea is to do marriage here and then apply for spouse visa from Pakistan. That will be ideal, if there is a way to do that.

Alternatively, I can go there in January, just for the nikah.

UPDATE: Is the idea of marriage visit visa that one would marry someone in UK and then not settle here?

FriendlyGhost wrote: ↑

Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:14 am

Is the idea of marriage visit visa that one would marry someone in UK and then not settle here?

As I understand it, the idea of a marriage visit visa is more for a non-EEA couple who would like to get married in one of the UK's scenic spots or historic castles/palaces and then return to their usual country of residence. It is effectively a visit visa that allows a marriage to take place as well.

FriendlyGhost wrote: ↑

Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:14 am

Right, so although we are engaged, there is no official document to prove that.

That's fine. Engagements/betrothals are not typically officially evidenced in most countries. Did you go through the two links in my previous post? They show the kind of non-official evidence that is required.

FriendlyGhost wrote: ↑

Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:14 am

She will visit me in December anyway, so the idea is to do marriage here and then apply for spouse visa from Pakistan.

The registrar will refuse the application if she is here on a visit visa. An Islamic nikkah in the UK will have no legal value, as Casa has already advised.

FriendlyGhost wrote: ↑

Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:14 am

Alternatively, I can go there in January, just for the nikah.

Good idea. Go for it.

@secret.simon Thanks for explaining. So, short story, our options are:

1. Fiance visa for her
2. Me to go to Pakistan for nikah

I read the thread you linked. Fiance visa is still preferable. But not sure if that will be rejected due to lack of evidence. We know eachother for four months now but only actually met three weeks ago in Karachi when, after a week we got engaged. So we have pictures of engagement function and some others. Not sure if that will amount to enough evidence.

Here is long story, if you can bear to read

Usual Pakistani/Inidan marriage is a marathon: functions last a few days and many people join in. Now both our families are, like worldwide mafia, spread across different countries. So the wedding functions are planned for July as that's when other family members can make it. Therefore, we want to do simple marriage beforehand and apply for visa. So that by July everything else is in place - including possibly her job in UK.

From that point of view, fiance visa seems like the only viable option. If not, then we can do the marriage minus the mafia, in January or February and then apply for spouse visa.

@secret.simon, @Casa May you have many sons and may your cattle grow!

My fear is rejection of fiance visa may affect her chances to get spouse visa at all and cause delays. Is fiance visa the same as regular spouse visa, except that it relies on promise that we would get married within a month of the granting of visa?

Hi,

Sorry for slightly off tangent question. What happens after your partner comes to UK and marries? Do you apply for spouse visa again? How long does that take?

Thanks in advance!

FriendlyGhost wrote: ↑

Sat Sep 23, 2017 3:05 pm

Hi,

Sorry for slightly off tangent question. What happens after your partner comes to UK and marries? Do you apply for spouse visa again? How long does that take?

Thanks in advance!

I have split your post into your own topic. Please don't tag your questions onto another member's thread as this is unfair and causes confusion.

After you are married your spouse has to submit a FLR(M) application from within the UK before the 6 month fiance visa expires. There will be a further visa fee of £933 + £500 for the NHS surcharge. If the application is submitted in person at a Premium Service Centre (PSC), there will be an additional fee of £590.

You may want to bear in mind that until FLR(M) is granted, your spouse will be unable to work. Postal applications can take 12 weeks or more to process, whereas when applying in person the application is generally decided on the same day.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... -form-flrm

And I have merged your topics (click). Kindly keep ALL your questions on the same applciation in one topic (this one).

Casa wrote: ↑

Sat Sep 23, 2017 4:41 pm

You may want to bear in mind that until FLR(M) is granted, your spouse will be unable to work. Postal applications can take 12 weeks or more to process, whereas when applying in person the application is generally decided on the same day.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... -form-flrm

Thanks Sorry didn't realise that threads were per case. Will keep in mind now.

I have two follow on questions:

1. Is there a wait for in-person appointments? So for example, after getting fiancé visa, we get married on 7 April. Can we book in advance so that we go for in-person application on 9 April?

2. Is there a restriction on FLR(M) visa that the person cannot stay out of UK for more than 90 consecutive days?

1. No not really.

2. No.

Does it mean we can only book for in-person, after the marriage?

So roughly how long is the wait after marriage until FLR(M) visa is given, when applying after fiance visa? This when applying in-person, so including wait times for getting appointment.

No one can tell you now, how long you will wait to get an appointment in April. March/April are the busiest times as the HO fees go up on 6th April every year and there is a rush to book and pay before the increase.

You get told on the day if the visa is approved.

Biometric residence Permit (the visa) gets delivered within 7-10 days by DX Courier.

Cool, thanks.

One more question - just to be clear - for fiance visa we still need to fill FLR(M) form, right?

Correct and you must apply for FLR(M) spouse visa before the fiance visa expires.

Great thanks!

Cost wise, the two options are:

Option 1:

Finace visa + Spouse visa: GBP 993 (fiance) + GBP 993 (spouse) + GBP 590 (for premium service which we will need) = 2,576

Option 2:

Me to go to Pakistan and do marriage there: ~GBP 500 (return ticket) + GBP 993 (spouse visa) = GBP 1,493

So although it will be inconvenient to go to Pakistan just for nikah, we will save over 1000 gbp that way.

Option 1:

Finace visa + Spouse visa: GBP 993 (fiance) + GBP 993 (spouse) + GBP 590 (for premium service which we will need) = 2,576

Correction as applications outside the UK cost more.
Finace visa + Spouse visa: GBP 1,464 (fiance) + GBP 993 (spouse) + £500 Immigration Health Surcharge + GBP 590 (for premium service which we will need) = GBP 3,547

Option 2:

Me to go to Pakistan and do marriage there: ~GBP 500 (return ticket) + GBP 993 (spouse visa) = GBP 1,493

Me to go to Pakistan and do marriage there: ~GBP 500 (return ticket) + GBP 1,464 (spouse visa) + £600 Immigration Health Surcharge = GBP 2,564

Thanks for clarifying!

Hello

I have a question about NARIC Certificate

to register on NARIC they ask the below

Immigration Tier and Immigration Route

for Immigration tier i entered 'Family, settlement and nationality

for immigration route there are 2 options family and settlement
which one should i select ?

fiance visa is 'Family of settled person' visa right so immigration route should be Family ?

please respond

thanks