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Re: Entrepreneur Visa Extn - Help Urgent Complexity - Update

Post by seasky » Sun Apr 16, 2017 8:54 pm

Vish79k wrote:Updating Timelines
Application Posted : 18 Feb 2017 Saturday by post
Application received by HO : 21 Feb 2017 Tue
Payment Cleared by cheque: Feb 28 2017.
Bio Letter received on 12 March 2017 dated 10 March 2017.
Biometric done : March 23 2017
Exceptionally complex , require more time - letter received dated 29 March 2017.
Decision : Nothing yet . WIll complete 8 weeks on 18 April 2017.

Bottom line - Iam in a Limbo !
So far your timeline is standard, everyone is waiting a lot these days. In your case, you actuall are 'exceptionally complex' and I hope you explained everything well in cover letter

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Re: Entrepreneur Visa Extn - Help Urgent Complexity

Post by Vish79k » Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:03 pm

Thank you seasky. tbh believe it or not , my cover letter just explains the documentation structure as I really was running short of time due to my last minute application. Iam not sure where Iam going with this nor what to expect. Its quite possible Iam due for the following :- an unpleasant news or an interview or some delay which would be a drag, all far from ideal expectations. So just thought I would update it anyways so it would help someone.

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Re: Entrepreneur Visa Extn - Help Urgent Complexity - Update

Post by annoyedatukba » Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:11 pm

Vish79k wrote:Updating Timelines
Application Posted : 18 Feb 2017 Saturday by post
Application received by HO : 21 Feb 2017 Tue
Payment Cleared by cheque: Feb 28 2017.
Bio Letter received on 12 March 2017 dated 10 March 2017.
Biometric done : March 23 2017
Exceptionally complex , require more time - letter received dated 29 March 2017.
Decision : Nothing yet . WIll complete 8 weeks on 18 April 2017.

Bottom line - Iam in a Limbo !
Just letting you know that I received the "exceptionally complex" letter as well, but I received my decision just shy of 10 weeks from date of application.

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Re: Entrepreneur Visa Extn - Help Urgent Complexity

Post by Vish79k » Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:41 pm

Thanks for the update annoyedatukba. If thats the case, the month end could be a possiblity for me. So point is uncertain. one can expect anything any moment. I hope you had a positive one, which Iam assuming you have so congrats.

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Re: Entrepreneur Visa Extn - Help Urgent Complexity

Post by CR001 » Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:43 pm

Vish79k wrote:Thanks for the update annoyedatukba. If thats the case, the month end could be a possiblity for me. So point is uncertain. one can expect anything any moment. I hope you had a positive one, which Iam assuming you have so congrats.
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Re: Entrepreneur Visa Extn - Help Urgent Complexity

Post by Vish79k » Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:54 pm

Thank You for your update CR001 .
@annoyedatukba : Iam sorry man. I understand the stress . Iam sure you are at it . Give it your best mate, you should be through. All the best - Keep us posted .

Iam going to hold the bull by its horns - come what may !

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Re: Entrepreneur Visa Extn - Help Urgent Complexity

Post by annoyedatukba » Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:21 am

Vish79k wrote:Thank You for your update CR001 .
@annoyedatukba : Iam sorry man. I understand the stress . Iam sure you are at it . Give it your best mate, you should be through. All the best - Keep us posted .

Iam going to hold the bull by its horns - come what may !
@Vish79k thanks for your words of support. I was refused on a completely different issue, wrong format of RTI FPS. Went for Administrative review which was declined. I have now corrected the issue and submit a new application on April 12th. Let's hope that this sorts out my issue.

Good luck with your application, the waiting is the worst in my opinion. Let us know how you get along.

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Re: Entrepreneur Visa Extn - Help Urgent Complexity

Post by Vish79k » Mon Apr 17, 2017 3:14 pm

Thank you. yes I read your case. I wish you good luck mate. i shall keep you all posted when I hear form them. cheers ! Good luck

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Urgent - Document update to HO while Application in progress

Post by Vish79k » Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:12 am

Hello Guys,

GM. For some reason I am beginning to feel that I have sent incomplete information to HO with regards to P11 Paye and Paye NIC . I have a feeling my accountant has made a mistake. and also reading FPS related information my accountant uses sage which seems like it doesn't produce the results the HO is expecting. So
currently my application is under progress. HO is looking at it and I have a feeling I might not score points regarding FPS .

If I have an option to get the right docs through my accountant . Can I update them as my decision is still not been given yet ?
my original case is on the link below
uk-tier-1-entrepreneur-visas/entreprene ... 24571.html


Also what options do I have after rejection ?
i have been hearing AR or Fresh application or something . so what are the best options with regards to a rejection please. This is a total stress and I really feel silly as I have a business to run and I have to cope with something that is not my area of my expertise ( Accounts) . Iam not saying this could be the only reason I might end up with rejection. So does this help if i send HO the updated information in the mena time its under process please?

Anyone please advise me with the right options. Zimba please if you get to this. If I can help something during this process I shall go ahead and do whatever I can. thanks in advance

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Re: Urgent - Document update to HO while Application in prog

Post by CR001 » Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:18 am

Vish79k wrote:Hello Guys,

GM. For some reason I am beginning to feel that I have sent incomplete information to HO with regards to P11 Paye and Paye NIC . I have a feeling my accountant has made a mistake. and also reading FPS related information my accountant uses sage which seems like it doesn't produce the results the HO is expecting. So
currently my application is under progress. HO is looking at it and I have a feeling I might not score points regarding FPS .

If I have an option to get the right docs through my accountant . Can I update them as my decision is still not been given yet ?
my original case is on the link below
uk-tier-1-entrepreneur-visas/entreprene ... 24571.html


Also what options do I have after rejection ?
i have been hearing AR or Fresh application or something . so what are the best options with regards to a rejection please. This is a total stress and I really feel silly as I have a business to run and I have to cope with something that is not my area of my expertise ( Accounts) . Iam not saying this could be the only reason I might end up with rejection. So does this help if i send HO the updated information in the mena time its under process please?

Anyone please advise me with the right options. Zimba please if you get to this. If I can help something during this process I shall go ahead and do whatever I can. thanks in advance
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Re: Urgent - Document update to HO while Application in prog

Post by Vish79k » Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:23 am

ok thank you cr001

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Re: Urgent - Document update to HO while Application in prog

Post by marcnath » Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:28 am

The immigration rules state:
245AA.Documents not submitted with applications
(a) Subject to sub-paragraph (b) and where otherwise indicated, where Part 6A or any appendices referred to in Part 6A state that specified documents must be provided, the decision maker (that is the Entry Clearance Officer, Immigration Officer or the Secretary of State) will only consider documents received by the Home Office before the date on which the application is considered.

The key date appears to be the " date on which the application is considered", not the date when it is applied. However, I am not sure we get to know what that date it is unless there is a AR or other legal challenges.

In short, it should not harm to send additional documents (as long as they are relevant and you explain why you are sending them) but no guarantee it will be considered.

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Re: Urgent - Document update to HO while Application in prog

Post by marcnath » Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:38 am

On a related issue, you mentioned the FPS is not in the format the HO is expecting.

I have not seen any specific format requested from HO, only that certain information should be there. I have two businesses and both had very different RTI format.

And there is a definite challenge about the requirement that RTI should have the employment starting date. It appears most systems only include the starting date on the first FPS after a new person has joined. And in my case, the accountant had changed the payroll system, so could not regenerate the original FPS (not even sure if the old system did have that information). The FPS I submitted from the old system did show that the new employee started in that month but did not have the exact date.

My application is still under processing and I am keeping my fingers crossed, but rejection on that basis is going to be very unfair :-(

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Re: Urgent - Document update to HO while Application in prog

Post by Zimba » Mon Apr 24, 2017 10:26 am

The HO has NO specific format for FPS. FPS reports are generated by Payroll software. The information in the FPS report is the only important thing
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Re: Urgent - Document update to HO while Application in prog

Post by Vish79k » Tue Apr 25, 2017 5:19 am

Thank you Marc Nath for your update and Thank you Zimba . Sorry I couldnt reply yesterday as the day turned weirdly busy and totally pointless.

Yes marcnath It would be unfair if they turn down on such issues. All the best . i shall kep you posted . Stay with me on this. cheers !

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Re: Urgent - Document update to HO while Application in prog

Post by Vish79k » Tue Apr 25, 2017 7:27 am

Hello Zimba and marcnath please check my fps log as attached . Is this even valid ? I have blacked out the fields
FPS generated by Sage. The data gets encrypted and sent over to hmrc and what is left is what I have attached
note for fps- I have the start and leaving dates on the concerned months wherever applicable.

and along with that I have submitted all pay slips showing all reevant details a payslip can possibly show but not the most perfect one.

It just says the amount per month : 1200 example
NI tax
Income tax:
Tax code
Employee name
address
Ni no
So it does not give them a break up per hour but per month only .

and along with this I have given them p11 PAYE and P11 NIc - Missing data for till 2016

My accountant gave me P11 for Apr 2016 to oct 2016 for one employee - 7 months who left
the other one from Apr 2016 to Jan 2017 as that was the last available one



I later realized he hasnt given me the data for both employees starting Oct 2015 to mar 2016 . So whats gonna happen ?

I can probably send them information quickly and try my luck or do I wait please advise or give your opinion?
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Re: Urgent - Document update to HO while Application in prog

Post by marcnath » Tue Apr 25, 2017 1:03 pm

I am not an expert on this.

However I note that it says, "The details are used to generate the FPS". Documents that I had from both systems had words to the effect "Details of amounts paid ..."

Not sure if that makes a differnece.

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Re: Urgent - Document update to HO while Application in prog

Post by Vish79k » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:42 am

oh man that means Its doubts ful in my case. Thanks for getting back.


@Zimba - Am I okay with my fps format please? I have sublitted my pay slips along with these logs

Th elogs where employees have started and left have the starters and leavers dates. please advise Thanks

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Re: Urgent - Document update to HO while Application in prog

Post by Zimba » Wed Apr 26, 2017 10:16 am

The FPS submissions must show total NI/Tax paid for each employee too. As I repeated several times the payslips or P11 will not be enough.
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Re: Urgent - Document update to HO while Application in prog

Post by Hellopino » Wed Apr 26, 2017 10:39 am

Hi vish79

sage basically produced three sheets. your's attached is the first one. on second it shows breakdown of Tax+ NIC. However sage fps doesn't show payment made to employee. so i am very confused about this as i read somewhere on the forum that fps should also show net payment like money soft.

I also submitted this three page fps along with P11 and employee detailed history page. Zimba can better explain this whether it will be accepted by Home or not.

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