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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by Kalex » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:15 pm

anabat22 wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:19 pm
Kalex wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:20 pm
anabat22 wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:19 am
Rabilal123 wrote:
Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:04 am
Hello Ana, Hossain & islam have been heard on COA. Basically those cases for No appeal right holders.Home office and Those guys reached on mutual agreement .I dont know what happens to hundreads of ETS litigations which were relied on them.I am really upset when people can afford expensive legal advice will win the case.Thanks
Hello RaBilal
Hello Rabilal, the agreement is not only between Islam and Hossain, the proposal will be sent to all who are waiting for this jusdgement. Who doesn’t have any type of appeal right. So, why are you upset? I was there and heard the hearing. Mr Biggs and knaffler was leading the case.

We (NGO, media, MPs and toeic affected migrants) are going to the parliament next week to raise this issue...... if you would like to join us please come. I would also like to invite anyone who is reading this post please let me know your interest and send me personal message. Please join us on twitter and Facebook regarding toeic issue.

It will be our last attempt to go to the parliament and raise our voice to end this battle... so please come

Ana
Could you please summarize the proposal here.


Thanks
Proposal will be sent out on individual basis. HO didn't tell at that time.
Do you have any idea when the decision expected?

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by Vasudev1987 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:35 pm

Hi Scott please help me my case same like you I did toiec in 2012

I was married in uk 2015 got entry cleareance and obtain spouse visa which was expired on
Jun 2018 was applied for flrm but they was refused because I was toiec victim and it’s not my voice they said
I just apeal against this matter and also I have twi year son British citizen

Will I win this apeak and how long take please advice

Thank you very much

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by avatar12 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:40 pm

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Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:47 am
It was dismissed as the judge wasn’t satisfied with the answers which I gave based on toiec

It was dismissed by judge only the fact and finding.

However She did allow my appeal based on human ground as my wife being British National

I don’t know on what grounds Home office seeking permission to appeal to UTT? As my appeal is allowed on human grounds and not on toiec
Any update on this plz ?

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by allain » Mon Jul 16, 2018 12:55 am

avatar12 wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:40 pm
avatar12 wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:47 am
It was dismissed as the judge wasn’t satisfied with the answers which I gave based on toiec

It was dismissed by judge only the fact and finding.

However She did allow my appeal based on human ground as my wife being British National

I don’t know on what grounds Home office seeking permission to appeal to UTT? As my appeal is allowed on human grounds and not on toiec
Any update on this plz ?

Hi can you please tell which question did they ask you in FTT then UTT and then JR regarding TOEIC.
Thanks,

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by vinny » Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:46 am

Home Office urged to let ‘cheating’ students resit language tests wrote:The Home Office accused more than 35,000 students of cheating in 2014 in the English-language proficiency tests some are required to take as part of their visa application process.
Home Office urged to let ‘cheating’ students resit language tests wrote:A spokesperson said: “In February 2014, investigations into the abuse of English-language testing revealed systemic cheating, which was indicative of large-scale organised fraud. The government took immediate robust action on this, which has been measured and proportionate, and so far more than 20 people have received criminal convictions for their role in this deception.
More than 20 people convicted from more than 35,000 accused? Proportionate?
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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by vinny » Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:21 am

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by Kalex » Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:40 am

Hi Vinny,

Does it mean apply for FLR (HRO) application?

Or submit human right appeal in some other way like PAP.

Thanks

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by yasir527 » Sat Jul 28, 2018 12:19 am

Hi all yeaterday went to upper turbinal for toiec hearing and judge took 2 mins to dismessed home office appeal .he said when their is no issue anymore bocz ftt found me as credible witness and allowed my appeal so what ground you got permission in.?Even thou home office representatives saying we dont know and we not gona argue anything.
So just 2 mins and its cost me 6 month wait after ftt decsion and momey cost is well.
I wish all of you good luck in yours upcoming decsions

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by GeetL » Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:43 am

yasir527 wrote:
Sat Jul 28, 2018 12:19 am
Hi all yeaterday went to upper turbinal for toiec hearing and judge took 2 mins to dismessed home office appeal .he said when their is no issue anymore bocz ftt found me as credible witness and allowed my appeal so what ground you got permission in.?Even thou home office representatives saying we dont know and we not gona argue anything.
So just 2 mins and its cost me 6 month wait after ftt decsion and momey cost is well.
I wish all of you good luck in yours upcoming decsions
Hi Yasir
Great news. We are still waiting another 2.5 months before we go for the first tribunal hearing. Really hoping it will be over for us soon too! Good luck and now you can move on with life finally.

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by GeetL » Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:50 am

Hi Vinny,
Thanks for sharing this.
How does this affect those that are mid-appeal (waiting for the ft hearing to take place)? A Does this mean the process will still continue regardless of the saga being over or will ETS cases be reviewed differently?

Appreciate you may not know.

Thanks

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by Sadik » Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:04 pm

yasir527 wrote:
Sat Jul 28, 2018 12:19 am
Hi all yeaterday went to upper turbinal for toiec hearing and judge took 2 mins to dismessed home office appeal .he said when their is no issue anymore bocz ftt found me as credible witness and allowed my appeal so what ground you got permission in.?Even thou home office representatives saying we dont know and we not gona argue anything.
So just 2 mins and its cost me 6 month wait after ftt decsion and momey cost is well.
I wish all of you good luck in yours upcoming decsions
Hi that's great at least you got it I am in the same situation As you . My appeal was allowed on 25th January 2018. Then home office appealed against judge decesion at first tier . That also been refused in begening of June . Then home appealed directly to UUT. UTT judge grant permisson to home office . It's been over a week . Can anyone tell how long roughly to get UUT hearing date .
They are wasting my time as well bro . So unfair . I have already been in court 2016 and won TOEIC by First tier judge . But that time I was just newly married with my partner wasn't enough evidence . So judge refused based of lack of evidence for flr fp.

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by Sadik » Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:10 pm

Hi My appeal was allowed on 25th January 2018. Then home office appealed against judge decesion at first tier . That also been refused by first tier judge in begening of June . Then home appealed directly to UUT. UTT judge grant permisson to home office . It's been over a week . Can anyone tell how long roughly to get UUT hearing date .
They are wasting my time . So unfair . I have got British wife and kids too . So annoying . I have already been in court 2016 and won TOEIC by First tier judge . But that time I was just newly married with my partner wasn't enough evidence . So judge refused based on lack of evidence for flr fp . I live in Manchester so I guess it depends which region you from for Appel hearing date . Looking forward to hearing from you guys

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by Shemu89 » Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:30 pm

Hi im a toeic victim and i have an appeal hearing at FTT next week and I'm very nervous about this. Could you please tell me what were the question you were asked by HOPO and if you submitted any evidence regarding your toeic test? Would be very helpfull if you could give me some advice.

I would appreciate if anyone can help me regarding this matter.

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by yasir527 » Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:11 pm

Hi the court will ask you about yours test .
When you booked
Where you find this test centre
How much you paid the fees
Do you pay by card or cash
How you travel to that test centre
On test day have you notice and wrong thing inside the centre
Then they wil ask you all 11 question about speaking test you need to tel them what these questions are like q 1 n 2 read paragraph load n clear q 3 decribe the picture and so on
You must read yours statement and dont add anything extra apart from yours statement.
If you did test your self then you dont need to be nervse and worry you will won .
Just remember you Solictors cant do anything you have to speak front of judge and proff yours self.
If you have IELTS test or other language test it will help judge to decide the case is well.

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by Shemu89 » Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:03 pm

Hi thanks for your advise. Its really helpful. Please keep me in your prayers. Thanks

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by Shemu89 » Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:22 pm

Hi yasir527, i have been reading your posts and learnt that you have won your case. I'm really happy for you. Is there any way to direct contact you so we can speak i really need some help reagrding my upcoming hearing.

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by anabat22 » Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:43 pm

yasir527 wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:11 pm
Hi the court will ask you about yours test .
When you booked
Where you find this test centre
How much you paid the fees
Do you pay by card or cash
How you travel to that test centre
On test day have you notice and wrong thing inside the centre
Then they wil ask you all 11 question about speaking test you need to tel them what these questions are like q 1 n 2 read paragraph load n clear q 3 decribe the picture and so on
You must read yours statement and dont add anything extra apart from yours statement.
If you did test your self then you dont need to be nervse and worry you will won .
Just remember you Solictors cant do anything you have to speak front of judge and proff yours self.
If you have IELTS test or other language test it will help judge to decide the case is well.
Hi Yasir, congratulations..happy to hear you won. Could you please send me personal message and give your email or contact. I want to ask more question about your hearing. If you don’t mind.

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by yasir527 » Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:28 pm

Hi yes as you know its been very long battle with them .
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Hi yes as you know its been very long battle with them .
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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

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yasir527 wrote:
Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:28 pm
Hi yes as you know its been very long battle with them .
Its
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Hi Yasir

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