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Surprised Brits
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 12:55 pm
by vinny
Re: Surprised Brits
Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 2:50 pm
by vinny
Re: Surprised Brits
Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 2:57 pm
by CR001
I read this in the Daily Mail yesterday and as much as I sympathise with a fellow Saffa, ignorance should not and cannot be an excuse, especially given that the media, political parties and government have for many years very publicly been pushing the facts about immigration and changes to immigration etc. UK papers are 'sensationlist', they don't report the full story usually.
Re: Surprised Brits
Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 3:03 pm
by vinny
Wonder when exactly did she enter the UK in 1962?
Was she granted settlement on entry?
Was she subject to
Commonwealth Immigrants Act 1962?
etc.
Re: Surprised Brits
Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 4:16 pm
by CR001
South Africa was not part of the Commonwealth in 1962.
Re: Surprised Brits
Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 12:13 am
by vinny
Ah,
yes.
So, in the absence of restrictive
immigration acts, wouldn't that make it even more likely that the family was granted settlement at that time?
Re: Surprised Brits
Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 12:33 am
by secret.simon
Also see
South Africa Act 1962 (as enacted).
For the purposes of British nationality, South Africans only lost their status as British subjects/Commonwealth citizens on 31st May 1962. So, the date of the lady's entry into the UK may be quite relevant.
In any case, under that Act, South Africans in the UK could register as citizens any time before the end of 1965 and even, if they gave notice of intent of doing so before 1965, by the end of 1970. That was a lot of slack in the law at the time.
Also, at the time, citizenship was passed down solely through the father and it is possible that the lady in question did not have CUKC status or patriality from the father's side. But would it be possible for her to claim British citizenship through her mother's side now, if such a claim exists?
Re: Surprised Brits
Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 9:41 pm
by Richard W
secret.simon wrote:Also, at the time, citizenship was passed down solely through the father and it is possible that the lady in question did not have CUKC status or patriality from the father's side. But would it be possible for her to claim British citizenship through her mother's side now, if such a claim exists?
Surely, not until 2026, if she's an illegal immigrant.
Re: Surprised Brits
Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:53 am
by vinny
Re: Surprised Brits
Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 8:48 am
by t123456789
Re: Surprised Brits
Posted: Fri May 05, 2017 12:15 am
by vinny
Re: Surprised Brits
Posted: Fri May 05, 2017 12:51 pm
by CR001
Made this an 'announcement' vinny so that always at top of sub forum page for ease.
Re: Surprised Brits
Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 12:32 pm
by vinny
Re: Surprised Brits
Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 1:01 pm
by ouflak1
Re: Surprised Brits
Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:16 am
by secret.simon
Man born in UK receives letter from Home Office ordering him to leave country
Shane Ridge has lived in the UK his entire life and thought he was a British citizen until last week.
He should be eligible to register under either Form UKF or Form T.
Re: Surprised Brits
Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:27 am
by CR001
There was another article about another person today. What is annoying is that a lot of these articles don't get the fact right. I have even given up commenting on the articles.
Re: Surprised Brits
Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:41 am
by vinny
If his mother is British (by descent), then he's
automatically British.
Re: Surprised Brits
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:12 am
by vinny
It's seems likely that his mother was settled or British or had the right of abode at the time of his birth in the UK.
Re: Surprised Brits
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 3:15 pm
by ouflak1
Re: Surprised Brits
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 6:19 am
by vinny
Re: Surprised Brits
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 3:07 am
by vinny
Re: Surprised Brits
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 4:52 am
by secret.simon
Re: Surprised Brits
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:53 pm
by FighterBoy
Horrifyingly there's no permanent record/register of settled persons, no way of knowing unless people keep old foreign passports locked away in a safe.
The consequences then pass onto their children born in the UK to foreign parents who can't prove their parent's status at the time of their birth.
Not a shred of concern in parliament, the media etc about the phenomenon of 'British floaters' without documents to prove their nationality.
It should be made simple - either being born here makes you British, or you need a British parent to be so. The torture in proving your parent's immigration status at the time of your birth must be ended.

Re: Surprised Brits
Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:23 am
by vinny
Exasperated by possible
destruction of evidence, with threats of fines for non compliance.
Re: Surprised Brits
Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 1:27 pm
by vinny