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and you wil find the relevant addresses for the Canary Islands.Lugar de presentación:
Oficina de Extranjería de la provincia donde pretenda residir o en la Comisaría de Policía correspondiente.
Para obtener información de la dirección, teléfonos y horarios de atención al público de la Oficina de Extranjería se podrá consultar la página: http://www.seap.minhap.gob.es/servicios ... _ddgg.html
You didn't have to discuss anything with them?chaoclive wrote:The Embassy of the Netherlands in Beijing asked us to show our tickets, which we did. The visa was issued and the passport returned to my partner within 3 days.
Lucky?The Spanish Embassy in Beijing didn't ask to see tickets. The visa was issued in 20 minutes (after a 25 minute discussion with the Visa Section Head).
We were very lucky.
It was lucky that it took 20 minutes/a few days. I am very well informed about my rights and would not call it lucky to get something to which my partner is entitled to. However, they do not have to issue it on the spot. I would like to see how the UK deal with someone who asked them to issue it on the spot.Prawo wrote:You didn't have to discuss anything with them?chaoclive wrote:The Embassy of the Netherlands in Beijing asked us to show our tickets, which we did. The visa was issued and the passport returned to my partner within 3 days.
Lucky?The Spanish Embassy in Beijing didn't ask to see tickets. The visa was issued in 20 minutes (after a 25 minute discussion with the Visa Section Head).
We were very lucky.
Since when you call it luck when you get what you are entitled to?
Satisfied with the 20 minutes? Know they have to issue such a visa a.s.a.p and facilitate it.
I presume you were issued the Spanish Schengen visa for a different trip.
Next time try to apply for a 90 day multiple entry visa with validity of 2-5 years.
Hey Freij,Wfreij wrote:Hello,
I have read extensively on the topic but i would like to make sure i am covered under the Directive 2004/38/ec
I am a Lebanese, residing in Lebanon. I wish to travel to the Schengen area for 25 days with Italy as the country of entry, i will go for touristic purposes from the 8th of August till the 1st of september with a group of friends.
There is a data collecting agency which collects all the applications for the italian embassy visas called TLS Contact. For the sake of clarity, I am a 24 year old male, unemployed but recently accepted at the American University of Beirut. My father recently got the bulgarian citizenship, therefore I applied to the citizenship too at the Bulgarian Embassy in Beirut. Also, I am still dependent on my father for expences.
Unless you cuold be classified as a dependant and travel together with your dad.directive 2004/38 wrote:Children (or grandchildren!) under 21 or those who are older than 21 but still dependent (e.g. students supported by their parents). The child can be of the EU citizen or of the non-EU citizen. This would include a child from a previous relationship or from before the EU-citizen obtained their citizenship.
Unless you cuold be classified as a dependant and travel together with your dad.
Well they did give a choice, but it sure isn't a genuine one.To apply for a visa, you shall contact “TLScontact” from Monday to Friday between 8.30 a.m. and 4.30 p.m. (Tel: 00961 1 669 888) or log on to the website http://www.tlscontact.com/lb2it, in order to set an appointment through the company itself (with an additional fee amounting to 56.000 L.P.) or, upon request, directly at the counter of the Embassy, but in such case, delays will be longer.
This handbook can also be found on the before mentioned page. There you can also find contact info if you wish to sent feedback to the EU Commission (Home Affairs department) about embassies who seem to give people a hard time.4.4. Direct access
Maintaining the possibility for visa applicants to lodge their applications directly at the consulate instead of via an external service provider implies that there should be a genuine choice between these two possibilities.
Even if direct access does not have to be organised under identical or similar conditions to those for access to the service provider, the conditions should not make direct access impossible in practice. Even if it is acceptable to have a different waiting time for obtaining an appointment in the case of direct access, the waiting time should not be so long that it would render direct access impossible in practice.
The different options available for lodging a visa application should be presented plainly to the public, including clear information both on the choice and the cost of the additional services of the external service provider (see Part I, point 4.1).
Well I have this instinctual fear towards asking asking them whats going on. But i guess I have to, because this is becoming unbearable! My hotel reservations expire by saturday if i dont pay, and nothing is certain so far.Also, your applications should have been dealt with ASAP, and at the longest 15 calendar days!! You may wish to contact the embassy and politely ask what the *** is going on (incompetence, not wishing to help you, mistakes by them, ... ?).
johnbeton wrote:Hello everyone
I'm new here and I just want to make sure my wife and I are going to be fine for our trip to Europe in two months.
I'm Belgian and my Brazilian wife and I are living in Brazil at the moment. We are travelling from Brazil to Belgium via Madrid.
My questions: Are we covered by the directive 2004/38? And if so, we can still be asked to produce our wedding certificate if I'm not mistaken. Since this would happen in Madrid do we need to translate it to Spanish, and does that have to be a legal translation?
Thank you very much!
Members are not permitted to post the contact/name details of solicitors.rnazaret wrote:Has anyone used a Lawyer in Germany to help with 2004/38/EC (dependents + Other Beneficiaries) case?
- Any recommendations?
- Any ideas on Budget?
Working with SOLVIT and German Embassy for over 4 months and getting extremely frustrated with the 'competency' of the officers.
Thank you!
Dear allwiz wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2013 2:08 pmEuropean Union Freedom of Movement
After she arrived in this country, 10 days later we applied with the same documents for her “RESIDENT DOCUMENT” and it took the HO in Liverpool…… more than 6 months to issue it! Obviously, as it was FREE of Charge, it wasn't for them priority to do any work …… and only Moved when I threaten to complain to the EU Parliament for breaking the Directive’s time scale. I did not bother complaining to SOLVIT.
While we were waiting for the “Resident Document “ to be processed, we had requested our Passports back and decided to visit Greece. Visiting the Greek Consulate to apply for her Visa, according to the rules, FREE OF CHARGE, I was told that she had to pay…… which I replied to read their instructions…… and finally made a call to the FO in Athens, spoke to somebody who was dealing with EU Matters and few minutes later the woman who was adamant and refused to process our application, came out looking for us and in 30 minutes later we had a 3 months Schegen Visa in her Passport.
It is clear that the various clerks of the Authorities do not bother reading new instructions…… and to make sure we will have no more problems I printed the relevant Greek Law and took it with us. Entering Greece was a breeze, and testing the waters, I found out that the officer was very knowledgeable, asking my wife, “”where is your husband, you must be travelling together or is he waiting outside?” So I showed my face.
On the way out it was another story. A young ignorant officer was refusing to allow my Russian National wife to depart for the UK and it took over 20 minutes to sort it out, because the boss was drinking coffee…. and she would not listen to me neither bother reading the Greek Law.
mrandmrsbo wrote: ↑Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:34 pmDear allwiz wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2013 2:08 pmEuropean Union Freedom of Movement
After she arrived in this country, 10 days later we applied with the same documents for her “RESIDENT DOCUMENT” and it took the HO in Liverpool…… more than 6 months to issue it! Obviously, as it was FREE of Charge, it wasn't for them priority to do any work …… and only Moved when I threaten to complain to the EU Parliament for breaking the Directive’s time scale. I did not bother complaining to SOLVIT.
While we were waiting for the “Resident Document “ to be processed, we had requested our Passports back and decided to visit Greece. Visiting the Greek Consulate to apply for her Visa, according to the rules, FREE OF CHARGE, I was told that she had to pay…… which I replied to read their instructions…… and finally made a call to the FO in Athens, spoke to somebody who was dealing with EU Matters and few minutes later the woman who was adamant and refused to process our application, came out looking for us and in 30 minutes later we had a 3 months Schegen Visa in her Passport.
It is clear that the various clerks of the Authorities do not bother reading new instructions…… and to make sure we will have no more problems I printed the relevant Greek Law and took it with us. Entering Greece was a breeze, and testing the waters, I found out that the officer was very knowledgeable, asking my wife, “”where is your husband, you must be travelling together or is he waiting outside?” So I showed my face.
On the way out it was another story. A young ignorant officer was refusing to allow my Russian National wife to depart for the UK and it took over 20 minutes to sort it out, because the boss was drinking coffee…. and she would not listen to me neither bother reading the Greek Law.
I've seen the above post by Wiz and noted he had somewhat similar situation, although that was a while ago, but would like to find out what your current opinion would be on the following:
My wife (non-EU) and I (EU citizen) have been married for over 6 years and living in the UK for over 10 years. We now both have applied for PR, which unfortunately could take up to 6 months to get and we are unaware of any ways to speed it up. We applied last month as her EEA permit was expiring anyways, and used European Passport Return Service so we both have our passports and as it is summer time we really would like to travel to her home country and EU. As her EEA permit was expiring she could not get a Schengen visa 3 months prior to her EEA permit expiration date (that seems to be the rule with all the embassies). So it now looks like travelling is not so straightforward. We read extensively about the Freedom of Movement directive and success stories which gave as some hope, but it is still a risk, so we thought we'd ask someone who is possibly more knowledgeable than us for opinion.
Travelling with no visa, Schengen or UK, at all seems like a huge risk. She phoned some of the EU embassies in her home country, but they replied they will not accept her application for Schengen visa because she does not live there for such a long time. This seems to contradict with the directive, but it is hard to explain something to someone there as they seem to be living by their own rules, never picking up the phone and not replying to emails. We found a way to possibly get her a tourist visa for 110 Euro. In given situation we are willing to accept the cost. (The situation is more complicated because i cannot accompany her for full 2 weeks visa waiting time in her home country and then go to Europe because of work, i can only take about a week off in total, and i think without my passport she would have hard time proving anything, so we think tourist visa could be a solution)
However, even in the event she gets that Schengen, we travel and get to the border in France, we still need to convince the border officers there to let us in on that ferry and those in the UK to let us off and in the country. In your opinion, how likely are we to succeed? Who are more difficult to deal with - border control in Europe or border control in the UK? I know it is said in the post it is possible, but that was nearly a decade ago and most of other success stories are from a couple of years ago. Do you have any information whether the situation changed since then, to the better or worse? And another question, what happens if all fails and they dont let us in? Do we have to wait for the decision from the Home office about her PR to come back? I dont think she could have two visa applications simultaneously. Also, do you think it could have any impact on the Home office decision about her PR? We really do want to travel, but we really do not want to be separated for 4-5 months.
To sum up, in the event we travel together to whatever UK border we could (most likely one of the sea ports as we dont want to risk air-travel and speaking to airport staff and missing flights etc) with marriage certificate (well, an official copy as original we sent out with our application), with her COA letter from the Home Office (that also gives her right to work), a black and white copy of her old, expired by the time of travel EEA residence permit, copy of the directive in several languages, bills and statements from our address (cant think of anything else), can we, well she in fact, get denied entry? If so, what could be the consequences?
As we see it, we are covered by two laws - the EU freedom of movement directive, and here in the UK, after 5 years together with me since i exercise the treaty rights, she automatically acquires the right of Permanent Residence. If i got it wrong somewhere, please let me know.
Thank you in advance
