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Black X on passport in UK, how long to come back?

Post by vodevil17 » Sun Nov 15, 2015 9:38 am

Hello, my Argentinian girlfriend was rejected Wednesday to enter in London, Gatwick airport. She had the return way ticket, insurance for Europe, my invitation letter. They said she didn't have enough funds to stay 5 months. Ok... They invented my bills, how much I spend and I can't support both, not true. I have my parents help as well and anyway mine was enough. She was detained for 16 hours!!! Then sent in another place (prison for me, close to Heathrow where I saw her 2 hours) and in the end sent back in Argentina. They didn't give to her food, water, nothing!!!

Anyway! They put that black X, black mark, on her passport. How long she needs to wait to come back in UK? If she has those funds, can she come back soon? Or I will leave the job to be with her.

They said it will not affect for Schengen area, I wanna take her in Italy in my house.

Thanks for the answer.

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Re: Black X on passport in UK, how long to come back?

Post by secret.simon » Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:12 am

vodevil17 wrote:I wanna take her in Italy in my house.
Are you an Italian citizen?
vodevil17 wrote:They put that black X, black mark, on her passport. How long she needs to wait to come back in UK?
I would suggest that for all future travel to the UK, that she apply for and get a visa in advance, rather than for a visa on arrival.

I believe that so long as she has got the appropriate documentation and finances, she should be able to travel asap.
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Re: Black X on passport in UK, how long to come back?

Post by vodevil17 » Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:34 am

Yes I am italian, working in UK since 1 year and 8 months. We decided 5 months in my house because on march I will have been 2 years consecutive in UK.

They said that when she will have funds she can come back but they spoke about 1 years too. They weren't so clear.

I have my career in London, after 2 years I could ask the residence in UK. The lawyer said if I marry her, they will cancel that X. Too many informations!

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Post by Casa » Sun Nov 15, 2015 11:11 am

vodevil17 wrote:Yes I am italian, working in UK since 1 year and 8 months. We decided 5 months in my house because on march I will have been 2 years consecutive in UK.

They said that when she will have funds she can come back but they spoke about 1 years too. They weren't so clear.

I have my career in London, after 2 years I could ask the residence in UK. The lawyer said if I marry her, they will cancel that X. Too many informations!
Why do you think 2 years residence will make any difference to your situation? An EEA national needs to show 5 years 'exercising Treaty rights' in the UK before qualifying for Permanent Residence (PR). Also there is no provision for a 'girlfriend/boyfriend' residence permit and from your posts, it doesn't appear that your girlfriend qualifies as an extended family member as you haven't been living together in a 'durable relationship'. This requires a substantial period of co-habitation with documented proof to support this. To use a phrase from the UK Immigration Rules, "in a relationship 'akin to marriage'."
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Re: Black X on passport in UK, how long to come back?

Post by vodevil17 » Sun Nov 15, 2015 12:37 pm

Forget about 2 years, my question was another one. When she can come back in UK like tourist, because they said "you can come back when you have enough money".

I spoke better with her, they didn't say 1 year neither.

She will arrive to Italy on December and after I have already tickets to London.

So she should be staying in London between 28th December to 10th April because she has already the ticket London Buenos Aires.

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Post by secret.simon » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:52 pm

I would recommend that she applies for a UK visit visa in advance, rather than getting rejected again.
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Re: Black X on passport in UK, how long to come back?

Post by Casa » Sun Nov 15, 2015 2:48 pm

Having recently been refused entry, she's unlikely to be permitted to enter the UK without a pre-issued visitor visa.
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Re: Black X on passport in UK, how long to come back?

Post by vodevil17 » Mon Nov 16, 2015 7:49 am

3500€ for 3 months and 15 days could be fine? Plus I will give to her 500€, 4000€ more or less 2830£. I spoke with an immigration lawyer and he said around 200£ per week. She is going today to the consulate in Buenos Aires.

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Re: Black X on passport in UK, how long to come back?

Post by Wanderer » Mon Nov 16, 2015 9:11 am

vodevil17 wrote:3500€ for 3 months and 15 days could be fine? Plus I will give to her 500€, 4000€ more or less 2830£. I spoke with an immigration lawyer and he said around 200£ per week. She is going today to the consulate in Buenos Aires.
And reasons to return? Job, family, property?
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Re: Black X on passport in UK, how long to come back?

Post by ouflak1 » Wed Nov 18, 2015 12:53 pm

vodevil17 wrote:3500€ for 3 months and 15 days could be fine? Plus I will give to her 500€, 4000€ more or less 2830£. I spoke with an immigration lawyer and he said around 200£ per week. She is going today to the consulate in Buenos Aires.
Has she got any plans to see any touristy sites while she's in the UK, maybe do some hiking/camping that sort of thing? Does she have any family in the UK? 3 months is a bit on the long side for just a visit, and the visit visa is not a boyfriend/girlfriend visa. The UK has a decidedly low regard for visits for that reason, so her application has to be strong. She'll need to show she's going to be in the UK in line with the intent of the visa.

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Re: Black X on passport in UK, how long to come back?

Post by vodevil17 » Wed Nov 18, 2015 6:37 pm

In April she needs to work. So next time I will say I am her friends? Someone needs to cheat to come inside UK? Bah. I didn't ask boyfriend VISA, we asked tourist visa and I explained our plans.

Anyway, can she enter in Italy with that black cross? Someone knows? (Schengen area)

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Re: Black X on passport in UK, how long to come back?

Post by CR001 » Wed Nov 18, 2015 7:39 pm

So next time I will say I am her friends? Someone needs to cheat to come inside UK?
Yes sure, do that and she will find herself facing a ban for deception if she has declared you as a boyfriend already. HO/UKVI keep all information.

Should not affect her entry to Italy.
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Re: Black X on passport in UK, how long to come back?

Post by vodevil17 » Thu Nov 26, 2015 5:02 pm

Guys, me and my girlfriend are going to Italy through Istanbul. Turchia is not schengen, will she got problem to change flight Istanbul Rome with that X on the passport?! There is some record between England and Turchia?!

The flight will be "Buenos Aires - Istanbul - Rome"

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