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Hi,bruteforce wrote:Guess its "further submissions unit" based in Liverpool.
Life in danger from some groups..I told them my sons ages,studies and all about our family ...Casa wrote:Under what basis have you claimed Asylum? Have you posted the ages your children are now or when they entered the UK?
1. How old were your children when they entered the UK?Munna2pk wrote:Life in danger from some groups..I told them my sons ages,studies and all about our family ...Casa wrote:Under what basis have you claimed Asylum? Have you posted the ages your children are now or when they entered the UK?
Think OP means his brother is Swiss but not living in the UK and asking if there is a way the Swiss brother can help them in any way.Casa wrote:2. What do you mean by your brother can help with immigration?
Hi,Casa wrote:1. How old were your children when they entered the UK?Munna2pk wrote:Life in danger from some groups..I told them my sons ages,studies and all about our family ...Casa wrote:Under what basis have you claimed Asylum? Have you posted the ages your children are now or when they entered the UK?
2. What do you mean by your brother can help with immigration?
3. How did you enter the UK?
If they give me DLR on child 7 years living basis , when I will apply for indefinite?Munna2pk wrote:Hi,Casa wrote:1. How old were your children when they entered the UK?Munna2pk wrote:Life in danger from some groups..I told them my sons ages,studies and all about our family ...Casa wrote:Under what basis have you claimed Asylum? Have you posted the ages your children are now or when they entered the UK?
2. What do you mean by your brother can help with immigration?
3. How did you enter the UK?
7 yrs and 6 months, 6 yrs 3 months
Can my btother help me to get EEA extended family member?
That was visit visa...and then I did asylum .
Hi,Casa wrote:If DLR is granted it will be a 10 year route to settlement (ILR) 2.5 years x 4 from the date of issue for all the family members. There is no quicker route.
I don't see how you and your family can qualify for an EEA EFM permit when your brother is living outside of the UK and it doesn't appear that you are in any way dependant on him.
Not from within the UK as you don't currently hold a valid visa in the permitted categories. See the link below:Munna2pk wrote:Hi,Casa wrote:If DLR is granted it will be a 10 year route to settlement (ILR) 2.5 years x 4 from the date of issue for all the family members. There is no quicker route.
I don't see how you and your family can qualify for an EEA EFM permit when your brother is living outside of the UK and it doesn't appear that you are in any way dependant on him.
Thanks for you help. Can you please tell me that Can I apply for entrepreneur 50,000 visa..
I'm waiting for my oral hearing in court.
Kind regards..
............................Munna2pk wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:04 amHi,Casa wrote:If DLR is granted it will be a 10 year route to settlement (ILR) 2.5 years x 4 from the date of issue for all the family members. There is no quicker route.
I don't see how you and your family can qualify for an EEA EFM permit when your brother is living outside of the UK and it doesn't appear that you are in any way dependant on him.
Thanks for you help. Can you please tell me that Can I apply for entrepreneur 50,000 visa..
I'm waiting for my oral hearing in court.
Kind regards..
To qualify for an EEA EFM, you and each family member have to provide evidence of dependency and being a member of the EU citizens household BEFORE both of you are coming to or have come to the UK and evidence of dependency while IN the UK.Munna2pk wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 12:57 pmHi Casa,
Thanks for giving me advice.
Can you please tell me that if my Swiss national brother will come to start living in uk. And start business.
Can I apply for EEA EFM?
After how much time after my brother come here and what things I need to prove.
Can you please tell me what is procedure and time and which things we need to get EEA EFM for me.
I will be thankful to you.
Rgards
Be aware that the 7 years rule does not mean that just because your children have lived in the UK for 7 years, that they will definitely get the right to reside in the UK. It must also be proven that it is not reasonable for the child to leave the UK.
The Home Office must make an assessment (which itself is subject to judicial review) whether it is proportionate for the children to remain in the UK. The Court of Appeal have opined in a recent case that the child's interests must also be seen in the wider context of the public interest, also taking into account the parents' immigration history.Immigration Rule 276ADE wrote:The requirements to be met by an applicant for leave to remain on the grounds of private life in the UK are that at the date of application, the applicant:
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(iv) is under the age of 18 years and has lived continuously in the UK for at least 7 years (discounting any period of imprisonment) and it would not be reasonable to expect the applicant to leave the UK; or...
Also see Paragraph 48 of the judgment to see what factors are taken into account for the proportionality test taking into account the best interests of the child.Paragraph 28 of MA (Pakistan) and Ors vs Upper Tribunal wrote:The decision maker must ask whether, paying proper regard to the best interests of the child and all other relevant considerations bearing upon the public interest, including the conduct and immigration history of the applicant parent or parents, it is not reasonable to expect the child to leave. The fact that the child has been resident for seven years will be a factor which must be given significant weight in the balancing exercise, but it does not otherwise modify or distort the usual article 8 proportionality assessment. That test requires that where the parents have no right to be in the UK that is the basis on which the article 8 proportionality assessment must be made.
secret.simon wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2017 9:47 amBe aware that the 7 years rule does not mean that just because your children have lived in the UK for 7 years, that they will definitely get the right to reside in the UK. It must also be proven that it is not reasonable for the child to leave the UK.
The Home Office must make an assessment (which itself is subject to judicial review) whether it is proportionate for the children to remain in the UK. The Court of Appeal have opined in a recent case that the child's interests must also be seen in the wider context of the public interest, also taking into account the parents' immigration history.Immigration Rule 276ADE wrote:The requirements to be met by an applicant for leave to remain on the grounds of private life in the UK are that at the date of application, the applicant:
...
(iv) is under the age of 18 years and has lived continuously in the UK for at least 7 years (discounting any period of imprisonment) and it would not be reasonable to expect the applicant to leave the UK; or...Also see Paragraph 48 of the judgment to see what factors are taken into account for the proportionality test taking into account the best interests of the child.Paragraph 28 of MA (Pakistan) and Ors vs Upper Tribunal wrote:The decision maker must ask whether, paying proper regard to the best interests of the child and all other relevant considerations bearing upon the public interest, including the conduct and immigration history of the applicant parent or parents, it is not reasonable to expect the child to leave. The fact that the child has been resident for seven years will be a factor which must be given significant weight in the balancing exercise, but it does not otherwise modify or distort the usual article 8 proportionality assessment. That test requires that where the parents have no right to be in the UK that is the basis on which the article 8 proportionality assessment must be made.
In the Zoumbas case in 2013, the UK Supreme Court took into account the parents' "unedifying immigration history" in a case where the children were born in the UK and had never been to the country of origin of their parents. Like you, the parents had arrived in the UK and had applied for political asylum, but failed repeatedly. The UK Supreme Court dismissed the appeal against the Home Office's refusal to give leave to remain.
From your description of your immigration history, the children were neither born in the UK nor are they British citizens. Furthermore, from your description, the majority of your (and the children's) residence history in the UK has not been legally sanctioned. There is therefore a very high possibility that your children's FLR(FP) application after 7 years residence will also be turned down.
The best course of action that I would suggest is to either look at the possibility of returning to your country of origin or to move to a country more receptive to refugees, such as Germany or Canada.
Thanks for your advice...
Can you please post your Canada questions in the 'Canada Immigration' sub forum further down on the main forum page and your Germany questions in the 'Europe Immigration' sub forum a little bit further down the main page.