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applying for ILR? eligibility, documents questions and new VCAS system

Post by AjPS » Mon Dec 03, 2018 4:10 pm

Hi,
I am planning to make my application for UK ILR soon. I worked on a Tier 2 General visa for my previous employed from October 2013 till Nov. 2014, and since then have worked for my current employer. My current T2 BRP expires in July 2019.

Given that I have been on Tier 2 BRP's since Oct. 2013, I believe I am now eligible (5 years) to apply for ILR. I recently passed the Life in the UK test as well.

Regarding the ILR application, I have a few questions:
  • How to apply? Is the application completely online now, and not paper-based anymore.
  • For these online applications, can we still later book a priority or premium service as I read that standard ILR applications can take upto 6 months in some cases?
  • Also, if I apply in Dec. 2018 or Jan. 2019, will I use the old priority/ premium service method or the new VCAS system rolled out on Nov. 29th, 2018?
  • For ILR application after 5 years on T2 BRP, it's the SET(O) form to be filled, unless I'm mistaken?
  • SET(O) ILR fees clarification: it's £2389 as of now? plus approx. £600 if applying with premium appointment (and no health surcharge for ILR), unless I've got it wrong??
  • Documents to provide: 1) passport, 2) old BRP, 3) Life in the UK test pass certificate, 4) proof of employment (need to ask employer for letter confirming this, any templates available for the required wording?), 5) proof of savings (is there a minimum balance requirement?), 6) English language proof (I completed my Masters in the UK, so should be exempt from this, as I was for past Tier 2 General applications, unless I'm mistaken?), 7) appropriate salary (My current CoS is for a PhD level role, so I believe I am exempt from this as well, though I do meet the salary threshold as well).
Sorry for the number of questions but I just thought it's better to ask experienced applicants and experts here while I continue to read about this online. I have searched on the gov.uk website but wasn't sure I had the right answers to proceed without asking here first.

Thanks a lot. :)

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Re: applying for ILR? eligibility, documents questions and new VCAS system

Post by CR001 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 4:17 pm

How to apply? Is the application completely online now, and not paper-based anymore.
Online only.
For these online applications, can we still later book a priority or premium service as I read that standard ILR applications can take upto 6 months in some cases?
There is no premium same day service any more. You will need to use the new service, see links below.

indefinite-leave-to-remain/new-uk-visa- ... 67058.html

https://www.ukvcas.co.uk/home-internal
Also, if I apply in Dec. 2018 or Jan. 2019, will I use the old priority/ premium service method or the new VCAS system rolled out on Nov. 29th, 2018?
You only have the option of the new service.
For ILR application after 5 years on T2 BRP, it's the SET(O) form to be filled, unless I'm mistaken?
Yes.
SET(O) ILR fees clarification: it's £2389 as of now? plus approx. £600 if applying with premium appointment (and no health surcharge for ILR), unless I've got it wrong??
See the links. It is just over £3000 for ILR.
Documents to provide: 1) passport, 2) old BRP, 3) Life in the UK test pass certificate, 4) proof of employment (need to ask employer for letter confirming this, any templates available for the required wording?), 5) proof of savings (is there a minimum balance requirement?), 6) English language proof (I completed my Masters in the UK, so should be exempt from this, as I was for past Tier 2 General applications, unless I'm mistaken?), 7) appropriate salary (My current CoS is for a PhD level role, so I believe I am exempt from this as well, though I do meet the salary threshold as well).
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Re: applying for ILR? eligibility, documents questions and new VCAS system

Post by AjPS » Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:28 pm

Thanks for the informative replies. Answers a lot of my queries. :)

Regarding fee, I couldn't find an exact fee in the links, This article online stated £2389 https://www.freemovement.org.uk/increas ... s-2018-19/

Regarding no premium same day service, I guess this could still be booked as an add-on-service? from the new VCAS online system, see https://www.soprasteria.com/docs/librar ... rvices.pdf .

Lastly, are ILR applications also exempt from Health/NHS Surcharge?

Thanks.

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Re: applying for ILR? eligibility, documents questions and new VCAS system

Post by CR001 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:57 pm

Ihs is not payable for ILR.

Members who have applied with the new service are reporting fees of just over £3k.
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Re: applying for ILR? eligibility, documents questions and new VCAS system

Post by rahuldwh2000 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 6:35 pm

£3018.20 is for 'super priority service' (break-up: 2389 usual fees plus 19.20 for BRP plus 610 for priority. For normal service, it is £2389+£19.20 for BRP i.e. total £2408.20. They take BRP charge together as we HAVE TO visit the sopra center to register BRP as part of the new process - no separate post office appointment for BRP anymore.

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Re: applying for ILR? eligibility, documents questions and new VCAS system

Post by AjPS » Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:26 am

Thanks a lot for the replies and all the useful information :)

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Re: applying for ILR? eligibility, documents questions and new VCAS system

Post by AjPS » Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:52 am

Hi, I have started filling the SET(O) online form: https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... -form-seto, but am confused about some questions:
  • For current nationality, I entered Indian and provided my Indian passport details. It then asked for details of a national identity card (non-UK government) for the nationality, which I don't have. Is it fine to leave it empty then.
  • When did you first enter UK?, I have entered the date of issue of my 1st Tier 2 (General) BRP (2013), as I arrived in UK much earlier on a Student Visa (2010), then T1 PSW (2011-13) and then switched to T2 General (on my 3rd T2 General BRP at present: 2016-2019).
  • List when you left the UK (excl. crown dependencies): Do I have to list every vacation and work trip (even if it's 2-3 days only) in this section with dates of each trip? Seems very excessive...
  • Also, do I need to list all home addresses across the 5 years with exact dates (as I have rented and relocated a few times)?; and also proof of savings like we had to for T2 Gen. BRP??
Might have a couple more questions as I proceed with the online form. Thanks.

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Re: applying for ILR? eligibility, documents questions and new VCAS system

Post by AjPS » Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:44 am

Thoughts anyone?, for:
  • When did you first enter UK?, I have entered the date of issue of my 1st Tier 2 (General) BRP (2013), as I arrived in UK much earlier on a Student Visa (2010), then T1 PSW (2011-13) and then switched to T2 General (on my 3rd T2 General BRP at present: 2016-2019). So, I'm considering 5 years from Ocrt. 2013 onwards as that was the date of issue of my 1st T2 Gen. BRP (out of 3 such BRP's).
  • List when you left the UK (excl. crown dependencies): Do I have to list every vacation and work trip (even if it's 2-3 days only) in this section with dates of each trip in the last 5 years (or before as well?)?

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Re: applying for ILR? eligibility, documents questions and new VCAS system

Post by secret.simon » Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:53 am

AjPS wrote:
Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:44 am
When did you first enter UK?, I have entered the date of issue of my 1st Tier 2 (General) BRP (2013), as I arrived in UK much earlier on a Student Visa (2010), then T1 PSW (2011-13) and then switched to T2 General (on my 3rd T2 General BRP at present: 2016-2019). So, I'm considering 5 years from Ocrt. 2013 onwards as that was the date of issue of my 1st T2 Gen. BRP (out of 3 such BRP's).
I believe that that should be the date that you first entered the UK, which includes the period you spent here as student, etc. So, you should enter the date that you entered the UK in 2010.
AjPS wrote:
Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:44 am
List when you left the UK (excl. crown dependencies): Do I have to list every vacation and work trip (even if it's 2-3 days only) in this section with dates of ach trip in the last 5 years (or before as well?)?
Yes. At the very least, all the dates stamped in your passport. Be aware that the dates of departure and arrival do not count as absences from the UK. So, if you left one day and returned the day later, you would have 0 absence on that trip, but you still have to enter it on the form anyway.
AjPS wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:52 am
For current nationality, I entered Indian and provided my Indian passport details. It then asked for details of a national identity card (non-UK government) for the nationality, which I don't have. Is it fine to leave it empty then.
Not sure if the Aadhaar card counts. if you have one, enter those details. Else, "N/A".
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Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:52 am
Also, do I need to list all home addresses across the 5 years with exact dates (as I have rented and relocated a few times)?
Ideally yes. If you don't recall the dates, month/year may be acceptable. But all the places that you have resided at must be listed.
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Post by CULLINAN » Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:08 pm

AjPS wrote:
Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:44 am
Thoughts anyone?, for:
  • When did you first enter UK?, I have entered the date of issue of my 1st Tier 2 (General) BRP (2013), as I arrived in UK much earlier on a Student Visa (2010), then T1 PSW (2011-13) and then switched to T2 General (on my 3rd T2 General BRP at present: 2016-2019). So, I'm considering 5 years from Ocrt. 2013 onwards as that was the date of issue of my 1st T2 Gen. BRP (out of 3 such BRP's).
  • List when you left the UK (excl. crown dependencies): Do I have to list every vacation and work trip (even if it's 2-3 days only) in this section with dates of each trip in the last 5 years (or before as well?)?
The question asks: The date you entered which your application is based on. So if it is that question, then it would be your first issue date of Tier 2.

You could have entered UK on a tourist visa even before 2010. Lets say 2001. So then would it be that date?

So it will be the date your application is based on.
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Re: applying for ILR? eligibility, documents questions and new VCAS system

Post by passat » Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:23 pm

AjPS wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:52 am
Also, do I need to list all home addresses across the 5 years with exact dates (as I have rented and relocated a few times)?
Ideally yes. If you don't recall the dates, month/year may be acceptable. But all the places that you have resided at must be listed.
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I did not see where in the online Set O form the previous addresses were asked for. I have now submitted my online form with details of only my current address where I have been staying for a little over 3 years.

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Re: applying for ILR? eligibility, documents questions and new VCAS system

Post by CULLINAN » Thu Dec 13, 2018 8:05 pm

passat wrote:
Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:23 pm
AjPS wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:52 am
Also, do I need to list all home addresses across the 5 years with exact dates (as I have rented and relocated a few times)?
Ideally yes. If you don't recall the dates, month/year may be acceptable. But all the places that you have resided at must be listed.


same...i did not even notice this question in the online form. I just input 2 years at present address and thats it. It did not ask for any previous 5 year address
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Re: applying for ILR? eligibility, documents questions and new VCAS system

Post by AjPS » Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:36 pm

Thanks @tier11417 and @secret.simon .

So, to clarify:
1) when did you first enter the UK? = start date of ILR period, i.e., my 1st T2 Gen BRP issue date (so Oct. 2013, excluding my previous PSW and student visas from 2010-13)
2) provide current address (moved recently so can provide details of older addresses)

3) salary/SOC/ PhD exemption:
I originally entered the UK on a student visa in late 2010 for my Masters degree (in Computing), then worked on my PSW visa and on my 1st T2 Gen. visa (Oct. 2013-2014) for my previous employer, as a "Software Developer (Chemoinformatics)".
Then, I relocated and started a new job as a "Bioinformatics Software Developer" on a new T2 visa (for current employer) in Nov. 2014. Later, I applied for a T2 Gen. visa extension (April 2016- July 2019) under a revised job title: "Bioinformatics Scientist" (SOC code: 2119, PhD level job, employer back then submitted proof of RLMT as well) and was paid £31k salary. The pay increased over the last 2 years to £33k and in April 2018 I applied for a promotion at work.
The formal promotion application review process took quite some time, and eventually completed successfully in late Nov. 2018 and I was promoted to "Senior Scientific Specialist" (so, new job title now) and now paid £38k. However, as the promotion process took longer than expected, the employer backdated the promotion to Oct. 2018 (instead of Nov.).
The increased salary is reflected in my Dec. payslip (but salary paid is higher as it includes the backdated amount/difference for Oct., Nov.). My actual new salary will be reflected in Jan. 2019 payslip.

Note: I became eligible for ILR in late Oct. 2018 but couldn't apply as I was away on holiday then and later busy moving house.

Note: My employer issued me a successful promotion letter detailing the new salary, backdating in Dec. payroll, and increased job responsibilities and notice period, but they didn't inform UKBA, as it is just increased pay and revised job title with same SOC code, same work department, and same employer.

I am looking to apply in Jan. 2019 (have had T2 Gen. BRP for 5 years, 2+ months now [1 year for old employer and the rest for my current employer]) but want to know:
  1. If I still have salary exemption, as I am in SOC 2119, PhD level role? What other evidence do I need to give for it, other than the current CoS that I'm on?
  2. Also, should be new job title include the term "Bioinformatics" as it did before, and as it's on SOC 2119 (am worried as I have read quite a few posts on T2 SOC 2119 to UK ILR application rejections on this forum lately). Should I request my employer to maybe alter the new job title?
  3. Regarding salary, if I submit last 3 months payslips and 3 months bank statements, it would include 2 months on my old salary (£33k) and then Dec. shows £38k (plus backdated difference, so is even higher than my real, current pay). There's no actual payslip showing my exact £38k salary until I get end of Jan. 2019 payslip. Will this somehow be a problem or "look suspicious"? (salary hike shown in just 1 payslip before applying for ILR? even though that's only because the promotion process takes some time in my current company). Should I request another letter from the employer to explain this in detail, or will just the promotion letter be sufficient?
  4. Or should I wait further until April 2019, when I will have 3 payslips and bank statements showing current, actual salary? my current T2 BRP is valid until end of July 2019, but then again, wwaiting so long despite being eligible for ILR may also "look suspicious"?
  5. I have made a list of all my holiday and work/conference travels over the last 5 years and this matches the immigration stamps on my passport.
  6. I will be asking my employer in the coming days for a letter verifying my current job title, pay, CoS (shows SOC code) and that I am still required by them for the future. Does that letter also need to include any work-related or personal (holiday) absences also listed, covering the last 4 years?
  7. Do I also need a similar letter from my previous employer confirming my absences/ holidays for the 1 year I worked for them on T2 Gen. visa? as that might take quite some time.
  8. Do I also need current and old P60 forms?
The more I read, the more confusing it is, as to whether I should apply now in Jan. (or should've applied before the promotion in Nov., or apply later in April 2019). Do I need same/similar job title to justify same CoS/ PhD salary exemption? Do I need all travel absences detailed by current and old employer in their letter(s)? I don't want to rush and apply and get rejected due to incorrect info. or suspicious-seeming circumstances, and have it cost me the huge £3k+ fee.

Any feedback would be very helpful, thanks.

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Re: applying for ILR? eligibility, documents questions and new VCAS system

Post by AjPS » Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:05 pm

Any thoughts @CR001 , @tier11417 and @secret.simon ?
thanks.

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Re: applying for ILR? eligibility, documents questions and new VCAS system

Post by CULLINAN » Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:33 pm

AjPS wrote:
Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:36 pm
Thanks @tier11417 and @secret.simon .

So, to clarify:
1) when did you first enter the UK? = start date of ILR period, i.e., my 1st T2 Gen BRP issue date (so Oct. 2013, excluding my previous PSW and student visas from 2010-13) correct
2) provide current address (moved recently so can provide details of older addresses) I suppose you should mention your current address as that will be your correspondence address. As of I know the online form does not ask for any previous addresses

3) salary/SOC/ PhD I am Tier 1 so I cant really comment on this wait for someone else to respondexemption:
I originally entered the UK on a student visa in late 2010 for my Masters degree (in Computing), then worked on my PSW visa and on my 1st T2 Gen. visa (Oct. 2013-2014) for my previous employer, as a "Software Developer (Chemoinformatics)".
Then, I relocated and started a new job as a "Bioinformatics Software Developer" on a new T2 visa (for current employer) in Nov. 2014. Later, I applied for a T2 Gen. visa extension (April 2016- July 2019) under a revised job title: "Bioinformatics Scientist" (SOC code: 2119, PhD level job, employer back then submitted proof of RLMT as well) and was paid £31k salary. The pay increased over the last 2 years to £33k and in April 2018 I applied for a promotion at work.
The formal promotion application review process took quite some time, and eventually completed successfully in late Nov. 2018 and I was promoted to "Senior Scientific Specialist" (so, new job title now) and now paid £38k. However, as the promotion process took longer than expected, the employer backdated the promotion to Oct. 2018 (instead of Nov.).
The increased salary is reflected in my Dec. payslip (but salary paid is higher as it includes the backdated amount/difference for Oct., Nov.). My actual new salary will be reflected in Jan. 2019 payslip.

Note: I became eligible for ILR in late Oct. 2018 but couldn't apply as I was away on holiday then and later busy moving house.

Note: My employer issued me a successful promotion letter detailing the new salary, backdating in Dec. payroll, and increased job responsibilities and notice period, but they didn't inform UKBA, as it is just increased pay and revised job title with same SOC code, same work department, and same employer.

I am looking to apply in Jan. 2019 (have had T2 Gen. BRP for 5 years, 2+ months now [1 year for old employer and the rest for my current employer]) but want to know:
  1. If I still have salary exemption, as I am in SOC 2119, PhD level role? What other evidence do I need to give for it, other than the current CoS that I'm on?
  2. Also, should be new job title include the term "Bioinformatics" as it did before, and as it's on SOC 2119 (am worried as I have read quite a few posts on T2 SOC 2119 to UK ILR application rejections on this forum lately). Should I request my employer to maybe alter the new job title?
  3. Regarding salary, if I submit last 3 months payslips and 3 months bank statements, it would include 2 months on my old salary (£33k) and then Dec. shows £38k (plus backdated difference, so is even higher than my real, current pay). There's no actual payslip showing my exact £38k salary until I get end of Jan. 2019 payslip. Will this somehow be a problem or "look suspicious"? (salary hike shown in just 1 payslip before applying for ILR? even though that's only because the promotion process takes some time in my current company). Should I request another letter from the employer to explain this in detail, or will just the promotion letter be sufficient?
  4. Or should I wait further until April 2019, when I will have 3 payslips and bank statements showing current, actual salary? my current T2 BRP is valid until end of July 2019, but then again, wwaiting so long despite being eligible for ILR may also "look suspicious"?
  5. I have made a list of all my holiday and work/conference travels over the last 5 years and this matches the immigration stamps on my passport.
  6. I will be asking my employer in the coming days for a letter verifying my current job title, pay, CoS (shows SOC code) and that I am still required by them for the future. Does that letter also need to include any work-related or personal (holiday) absences also listed, covering the last 4 years?
  7. Do I also need a similar letter from my previous employer confirming my absences/ holidays for the 1 year I worked for them on T2 Gen. visa? as that might take quite some time.
  8. Do I also need current and old P60 forms?
The more I read, the more confusing it is, as to whether I should apply now in Jan. (or should've applied before the promotion in Nov., or apply later in April 2019). Do I need same/similar job title to justify same CoS/ PhD salary exemption? Do I need all travel absences detailed by current and old employer in their letter(s)? I don't want to rush and apply and get rejected due to incorrect info. or suspicious-seeming circumstances, and have it cost me the huge £3k+ fee.

Any feedback would be very helpful, thanks.
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Re: applying for ILR? eligibility, documents questions and new VCAS system

Post by AjPS » Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:44 pm

tier11417 wrote:
Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:33 pm
AjPS wrote:
Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:36 pm
Thanks @tier11417 and @secret.simon .
So, to clarify:
1) when did you first enter the UK? = start date of ILR period, i.e., my 1st T2 Gen BRP issue date (so Oct. 2013, excluding my previous PSW and student visas from 2010-13) correct
2) provide current address (moved recently so can provide details of older addresses) I suppose you should mention your current address as that will be your correspondence address. As of I know the online form does not ask for any previous addresses
3) salary/SOC/ PhD I am Tier 1 so I cant really comment on this wait for someone else to respondexemption

Have some patience you just posted 30 min ago and expect an answer. Wait and someone will reply soon


Thanks, will wait further responses regarding salary, PhD/ SOC exemption, employer letter, work absences, etc.

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Re: applying for ILR? eligibility, documents questions and new VCAS system

Post by CR001 » Sun Jan 06, 2019 4:00 pm

PhD SOC is exempt from the minimum income requirement.

https://researchbriefings.parliament.uk ... y/CBP-7264

You need an absence letter from all employers you have had on tier 2.
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Re: applying for ILR? eligibility, documents questions and new VCAS system

Post by AjPS » Sun Jan 06, 2019 4:57 pm

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Sun Jan 06, 2019 4:00 pm
PhD SOC is exempt from the minimum income requirement.

https://researchbriefings.parliament.uk ... y/CBP-7264

You need an absence letter from all employers you have had on tier 2.
Thank you for the reply. Regarding the absence, does that include all paid annual leaves taken as well? In my 5 years on T2, I have only taken holidays using my paid annual leave quota and some 2-3 days' work trips (to conferences). All work trips have only been for my current employer. Does the old employer need to issue me a letter detailing the annual leave I took as well, as I never had an unpaid leave or work trip for them? Thanks.

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Re: applying for ILR? eligibility, documents questions and new VCAS system

Post by AjPS » Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:19 pm

AjPS wrote:
Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:36 pm
  1. If I still have salary exemption, as I am in SOC 2119, PhD level role? What other evidence do I need to give for it, other than the current CoS that I'm on?
  2. Also, should be new job title include the term "Bioinformatics" as it did before, and as it's on SOC 2119 (am worried as I have read quite a few posts on T2 SOC 2119 to UK ILR application rejections on this forum lately). Should I request my employer to maybe alter the new job title?
  3. Regarding salary, if I submit last 3 months payslips and 3 months bank statements, it would include 2 months on my old salary (£33k) and then Dec. shows £38k (plus backdated difference, so is even higher than my real, current pay). There's no actual payslip showing my exact £38k salary until I get end of Jan. 2019 payslip. Will this somehow be a problem or "look suspicious"? (salary hike shown in just 1 payslip before applying for ILR? even though that's only because the promotion process takes some time in my current company). Should I request another letter from the employer to explain this in detail, or will just the promotion letter be sufficient?
  4. Or should I wait further until April 2019, when I will have 3 payslips and bank statements showing current, actual salary? my current T2 BRP is valid until end of July 2019, but then again, wwaiting so long despite being eligible for ILR may also "look suspicious"?
  5. I have made a list of all my holiday and work/conference travels over the last 5 years and this matches the immigration stamps on my passport.
  6. I will be asking my employer in the coming days for a letter verifying my current job title, pay, CoS (shows SOC code) and that I am still required by them for the future. Does that letter also need to include any work-related or personal (holiday) absences also listed, covering the last 4 years?
  7. Do I also need a similar letter from my previous employer confirming my absences/ holidays for the 1 year I worked for them on T2 Gen. visa? as that might take quite some time.
  8. Do I also need current and old P60 forms?
Hi everyone, Regarding (1), I believe stating my current CoS and SOC code shows I am exempt, as confirmed here earlier, from ILR min. salary requirements.

For (2) and (3), I have requested my employer company to amend the new job title to include the term "bioinformatics" and to state in their letter that I got the promotion after a lengthy review process which is why the salary hike happened in late Nov. as is reflected as backdated in Dec., with my new salary to be exactly reflected in Jan. payroll.
So, for (4), should I still wait a few months?, to have payslips reflect new salary or go ahead now with just Dec. payslip that shows new salary + backdated amount. Still unsure about what's recommended for (7) and (8). Thanks.

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Re: applying for ILR? eligibility, documents questions and new VCAS system

Post by AjPS » Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:57 am

Hi, I have almost completed the online SET(O) form for ILR application. Few questions/doubts still remain for me:

1) For travel outside UK, I have listed all work trips and personal holidays I have taken from Oct. 2013 till Jan. 2019. I have been in the UK since Sept. 2010 on student and Tier 1 PSW visas but have excluded travel in that period from this.

2) For date I 1st entered UK, I have entered Oct. 2013 as that's when my 1st Tier 2 Gen. visa began (for the 5 year ILR qualifying period).

3) I have asked my current employer to list all absences (work trips and personal holidays, from my paid annual leave) in their letter (from Nov. 2014 till date). I worked for another company before this (March 2012 to Nov. 2014) so should I contact and ask the previous employer for a letter as well detailing travel made (from Oct. 2013 - Nov. 2014) whilst working for them?

4) My current Tier 2 Gen. visa (April 2016- July 2019) is using a PhD-level SOC code (2119) but my Tier 2 Gen visas before this (old employer: 2013-2014) and current employer (2014-2016) were under a different SOC code (2136, not PhD level). Does PhD salary exemption still apply as my current job (2016-19) is on a PhD SOC code, unless I'm mistaken?

Thanks.

Sorry for the numerous posts but am trying to ask questions when I come across various sections of the online form.

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Re: applying for ILR? eligibility, documents questions and new VCAS system

Post by AjPS » Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:59 pm

Also, (5) for evidence of travel/ absences, would just letter from employer suffice or do I also need to find and submit flight/stay bookings for last 5 years.

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Re: applying for ILR? eligibility, documents questions and new VCAS system

Post by AjPS » Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:54 am

Hi everyone, just to summarise, from all the feedback and answers given to me here (special thanks to @CR001 , @tier11417 , @passat & @secret.simon), I now know the following about my upcoming Tier 2 Gen. to ILR application:
  • filled online form: SET(0)
  • once application and docs are all ready I need to book a appointment using the new UK VCAS service for premium service
  • date 1st entered the UK (for this application): use Oct. 2013 when granted 1st T2 Gen. visa, exclude that previously in UK since 2010 on student visa and later on T1 PSW visa.
  • documents needed: 1) online form, 2) passport, 3) current BRP, 4) 2 photographs, 5) UK degree, 6) Life in the UK test pass certificate, 7) 3 months? bank statements, 8 ) last 1 payslip (or 3?), 9) list of all holidays/ work-related absences from UK for the last 5 years (across my 3 jobs for 2 employers in that time: 2013-2014 for old_employer on T2 Gen., and for current_employer: 2014-2016 on T2 Gen. and 2016-2019 (new position) on new T2 Gen. visa), 10) company letter (listing all absences) from current_employer, 11) company letter from old_employer (for absences in 2013-14, I only had 1 holiday trip in this period outside UK, for 14 days), hope that's fine?, 12) ILR visa fee (£3018.20), 13) address proof (is it needed?)
Some doubts/questions that I still have:
  1. My current CoS (2016-19) is for SOC code 2119, salary: £31.1k but that did rise over the years to £33k (not sure if my current_employer needed to notify UKBA about minor company-wide pay rises that happen every year.
  2. In Oct. 2018, I got a promotion at work that saw the title change from Bioinformatics Scientist to Senior Bioinformatics Scientist and salary rise to nearly £38k. I have spoken to HR today to have them notify UKBA via the online SMS system ASAP about the promotion and mention that it is a promotion to a senior position (within the same job type/description) and core duties remain the same.
  3. I will next contact my old_employer for a letter stating I worked for them from 2012-2014, 1st on PSW and then from late 2013-2014 on a Tier 2 Gen. visa, and confirming, my 1 absence under T2 Gen. in the 2013-14 period. Note: the old_employer is no longer a T2 sponsor (as they no longer have overseas employees), not sure if that affects my case as I no longer work for them?
  4. Also: My 1st T2 Gen. BRP for old_employer was for SOC code 2136, 2nd (for current_employer) was also using SOC code 2136, 3rd/ current one (2016-19) uses SOC code 2119 (PhD level role). I believe I am eligible for ILR salary exemption as my current CoS (for the last 3 years) has been for a PhD level role. However, 2 years before that were a non-PhD role. Is this okay or not?
  5. I finished 5 years on T2 in late Oct. 2018. But after my promotion, new salary will only be reflected in Jan. 2019 payslip and onwards. Should I apply already (with Dec. payslip showing new salary + backdated pay rise and old on Oct./Nov. payslips) or wait until I have 1-3 payslips with new salary as that might mean applying instead in early Feb. or early April? Current T2 is valid until July 2019.
  6. In the online SET(O) form, it only asks for current address, where do I provide details of older addresses? as I moved to my current house in Sept. 2018 only. Should I attach a letter stating my older addresses while under T2 Gen. visas (and provide old rental agreements)?.
  7. Do I need to submit P60, etc. too or not?
  8. When entering my travel outside UK, I am unsure about 1 trip: In 2015 I was travelling to Germany with 2 friends. We checked-in at Gatwick airport and went through immigration too but we later had to miss the flight, and return home, as 1 of my friends was fell (very) sick. My passport has an airport stamp from Gatwick airport but no landing/immigration stamp from Germany as I never flew out and never actually made the trip. Do I need to state and explain this as a trip in the online SET(O) form as well or omit this as I never left the country?
Thanks a lot for the help so far and hoping to learn more about the remaining issues. Thanks.

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Re: applying for ILR? eligibility, documents questions and new VCAS system

Post by AjPS » Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:22 pm

Hi gurus, I have completed the online form (SET(O): Tier 2 Gen. to ILR) and am now finalising my supporting docs before I book a premium UKVCAS appointment.

Supporting Documents needed (kindly confirm please?) & some questions:
1) online form,
2) passport (should I scan all pages with stamps on them or just front & back?),
3) current T2 Gen. BRP (valid until July 2019),
4) 2 photographs (signed at the back),
5) UK Masters degree (English language evidence),
6) Life in the UK test pass certificate,
7) financial evidence: 90 days UK bank statements (stamped by the bank),
8 ) last 1 payslip, or do we need last 3 payslips?,
9) spreadsheet of all holidays (paid annual leave)/ work-trips for "absences from UK" for the last 5 years (across my 3 jobs for 2 employers in that time: 2013-2014 for old_employer on T2 Gen., and for current_employer: 2014-2016 on T2 Gen. and 2016-2019 (new position) on new T2 Gen. visa),
10) A company letter (verifying all absences) from current_employer and verifying my salary and employment for the forseeable future,
11) company letter from old_employer (for absences in 2013-14, I only had 1 holiday trip in this period outside UK, for 14 days), is this needed?,
12) ILR visa fee (£3018.20),
13) what document is needed?, for address proof for current and/or older addresses?[/list]

Remaining queries (please help):
  1. Salary exemption for SOC code: My 1st T2 COS (2013-14, old_employer) was for SOC code 2136, as was my 2nd T2 (current_employer) in 2014-2016. My current/latest CoS (2016-19, salary: £31k) uses PhD level SOC code 2119 (changed job in same company). Do I still get salary exemption as last 2.5 years of my 5 years have been on a PhD level SOC code, or did I need all 5 years on PhD SOC code?
  2. Job title and Salary changed (promotion): In Oct. 2018, I got a promotion at work that saw the job title change from Senior Bioinformatics Scientist and annual salary rise from £33k in 2018 (was £31k in 2016 CoS) to around £38k now.
    I spoke to my current_company HR today and they will add a sponsor note to the CoS today via the online SMS system ASAP to notify UKBA that it is a promotion to a senior position (within the same job type/description) and core duties remain the same. Hope this is sufficient?
  3. Salary differs in Payslips: Similar to above, my last 3 payslips have different salaries. 2 have old salary (based on £33k p.a.) while 2016 CoS showed £31k p.a., while Dec. payslip is over £38k p.a. (as promotion was backdated to Oct.). So, no payslip shows actual, current salary (£38 p.a.) until I get my Jan. payslip. Should I apply already (and submit only Dec. 2018 payslip showing new salary + backdated hike) or wait until April, I have 3 payslips with new salary? please help.
  4. For letter of absence from old_employer, I worked there on T1 PSW from 2012-late 2013 and then on my 1st T2 BRP (2013-14). Should their letter include all absences in my time there (2012-14) or only the 1 year T2 BRP period for ILR? Any thoughts?

    Note: that old_employer is no longer a T2 sponsor (as they no longer have overseas employees), is that okay for me?

    Also, Is this template ok to use for the letter: indefinite-leave-to-remain/employer-let ... 52143.html

    Other doubts:
  5. In the online SET(O) form, it only asks for current address, where do I provide details of older addresses? as I moved to my current house in Sept. 2018 only. Should I attach a letter stating my older addresses while under T2 Gen. visas and also provide old rental agreements) or is it not needed?
  6. Have read a few posts here talking about current and old P60 forms? Do we need any of those?
Thanks a lot for the help so far, looking forward to responses from you soon. Thank you. :)

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Re: applying for ILR? eligibility, documents questions and new VCAS system

Post by AjPS » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:03 am

any thoughts, anyone?
Would be great to get some response about the queries. thanks.

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Re: applying for ILR? eligibility, documents questions and new VCAS system

Post by AjPS » Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:04 pm

Hi everyone, does anyone please have any advice/feedback or thoughts regarding this? I asked on indefinite-leave-to-remain/set-o-paysli ... 71870.html but that was locked (as was a re-post).

Still awaiting a reply for:
1) I am on a PhD SOC (2119) since 2016 but was on a different SOC (2136) in 2013-16, do I still get salary exemption for ILR?

2) finance docs: only last month's bank statements (1) and last (1) payslip (so Dec. 2018 for me) needed? no 3 months bank statements/payslips or P60's?

3) Salary query: Salary on my current CoS (2016-19) was £31k, slowly rose to £33k by 2018; in Dec. 2018, it rose to £38k after a promotion. Employer has added a sponsor note to the CoS explaining the promotion. In the online SET(O) form, I have stated my current salary (£38k) and working hours (37). But my last payslip (Dec. 2018) has backdated promotion pay (for Oct/Nov) so the amount paid is higher than £38k equivalent. Will this difference cause any major issues?

Don't know how to proceed... :(

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