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FLR(M) - SoftBreakup - reunion from outside UK

Post by rajinlondon » Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:38 pm

Hi Experts,
My wife was in UK with FLR(M) from 2014 - 2016, she came in 2013 as Tier 1 dependant, in 6 months we switched to FLR(M) since I got ILR.
We went to India on her 7th month of pregnancy in 2014 for our baby birth.
We decided our baby is in India with our parents .
She came back to UK in 2015 and we were living togehter.
I got my British citizenship.
We had our bad times between us, though we lived seperately due to our work places, we were together only on weekends, rarely on weekdays that helped things not go worse for us.
Then she went back to India in 2016, before her visa expiry (no overstay). Her visa expried later.
I have been visiting India frequently at my parents place where we were together at my parents where our child was taken care by them.
And everything is going smooth between us now, and we both are putting our childs education first, and want to bring them here so I can put my child at year 1.
Our relation ships were substing through all the rough patches, only thing is she wasnt here in the UK.
I made 7 visits to India last year alone, working from India sometimes during my visit.
I also have my TV licensing on my wifes name, just in case to convince HO incase they need more document to prove our relationships subsistance, not everyone can understand our situation.

Now, while am in the UK, we are planning to apply from India using the link here https://www.gov.uk/uk-family-visa/partner-spouse that will lead us to https://www.visa4uk.fco.gov.uk/home/welcome
  • Please advise if I have to mention our rough patch during application stages, since theres clearly a gap of 2.5 years on her visa extension.
  • Also am self-employed, i take only £8424 as salary and £42k as dividend, how should I provide my finacial supporting documents in this case.
  • When my wife was working here in 2015 and 16, she was already contributing to NI, so can we ask the NHS fee to be waived for her?
Sorry its very long.
Thanks for reading,
Raj

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Re: FLR(M) - SoftBreakup - reunion from outside UK

Post by CR001 » Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:02 pm

Please advise if I have to mention our rough patch during application stages, since theres clearly a gap of 2.5 years on her visa extension.
No requirement to mention the 'rough patches'.
Also am self-employed, i take only £8424 as salary and £42k as dividend, how should I provide my finacial supporting documents in this case.
Suggest read Appendix FM-SE etc.
When my wife was working here in 2015 and 16, she was already contributing to NI, so can we ask the NHS fee to be waived for her?
She is not exempt from paying the IHS fee. If she does not pay it, her visa will be refused, same for the child. Previously contributing to NI has nothing to do with the Immigration Health Surcharge.
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Re: FLR(M) - SoftBreakup - reunion from outside UK

Post by seagul » Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:25 pm

rajinlondon wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:38 pm
Then she went back to India in 2016, before her visa expiry (no overstay). Her visa expried later.
I have been visiting India frequently at my parents place where we were together at my parents where our child was taken care by them.
Is your wife now in India since 2016 when she left before her visa expiry? Were she returned back after 2016? If not then FLRM extension wont work rather the spouse visa will again be needed to apply from abroad.
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Re: FLR(M) - SoftBreakup - reunion from outside UK

Post by rajinlondon » Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:00 pm

Thanks for the reply CR001 and seagul.

My left UK in August 2016 and her visa expired October 2016.
She is still in India from Aug'16 and never traveled outside India after that.
So clearly there's no overstay.

Can I still apply FLR(m) extension? I guess not.

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Re: FLR(M) - SoftBreakup - reunion from outside UK

Post by Casa » Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:03 pm

rajinlondon wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:00 pm
Thanks for the reply CR001 and seagul.

My left UK in August 2016 and her visa expired October 2016.
She is still in India from Aug'16 and never traveled outside India after that.
So clearly there's no overstay.

Can I still apply FLR(m) extension? I guess not.

Thanks
Raj
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Re: FLR(M) - SoftBreakup - reunion from outside UK

Post by rajinlondon » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:53 pm

Thanks for the reply Casa

Yes, I thought the same.
I think my wife should apply for type settlement -wife, and fill the column that asks the intended stay in U.K. should be mentioned as "more than 5 years "? Or duration of the visa?
Also, do I have to make a separate application for our child who is 4 years? I can't see a combined application for both of them, am I missing something?
    She use to go for pregnancy check ups till her 7 months of pregnancy in the Hospital.
    Does it mean I should answer the question
    "Have you ever received medical treatment in the UK?" As 'YES'?

    Or does visiting the local GP also counts?, she was given medication for thyroid after baby birth.

    Thanks
    Raj

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    Re: FLR(M) - SoftBreakup - reunion from outside UK

    Post by rajinlondon » Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:50 pm

    Hi all, Any help with clarifications for the above querries?

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    Post by seagul » Tue Mar 05, 2019 7:53 pm

    rajinlondon wrote:
    Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:53 pm
    Thanks for the reply Casa

    Yes, I thought the same.
    I think my wife should apply for type settlement -wife, and fill the column that asks the intended stay in U.K. should be mentioned as "more than 5 years "? Or duration of the visa?
    Also, do I have to make a separate application for our child who is 4 years? I can't see a combined application for both of them, am I missing something?
      She use to go for pregnancy check ups till her 7 months of pregnancy in the Hospital.
      Does it mean I should answer the question
      "Have you ever received medical treatment in the UK?" As 'YES'?

      Or does visiting the local GP also counts?, she was given medication for thyroid after baby birth.

      Thanks
      Raj
      I think separate application will be made for child. And regarding NHS usage, yes you should declare it honestly which shouldn't any issue as long as if you have previously paid IHS surcharge.
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      Re: FLR(M) - SoftBreakup - reunion from outside UK

      Post by rajinlondon » Wed Mar 06, 2019 1:42 pm

      Thanks for the reply seagul

      I guess, will have to apply a new application from the same user account, and also find appointment on the same day, which could be tricky.

      I coulnt find a thread here that shares experince of Wife and child applying together for settlement from outside UK, if anyone knows, please can you share?

      Thanks
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      Re: FLR(M) - SoftBreakup - reunion from outside UK

      Post by seagul » Wed Mar 06, 2019 4:38 pm

      rajinlondon wrote:
      Wed Mar 06, 2019 1:42 pm
      Thanks for the reply seagul

      I guess, will have to apply a new application from the same user account, and also find appointment on the same day, which could be tricky.

      I coulnt find a thread here that shares experince of Wife and child applying together for settlement from outside UK, if anyone knows, please can you share?

      Thanks
      Raj
      Many threads about it. Spend some time to search here
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      Re: FLR(M) - SoftBreakup - reunion from outside UK

      Post by rajinlondon » Tue Apr 02, 2019 1:17 am

      Hi Experts,
      Am applying for settlement of my wife and child who are currently in India. Am British and they are Indian.
      When filling in the application form for my child , am having a mandatory field with no 'father' relationship option

      Attaching a screenshot
      When filling in the Under 18 section, as shown here screenshot of application form
      Clicking on 'Add' button under Who are you staying with in the UK?
      Screenshot of popup with no father option
      My child will be staying with me and my wife. Am applying for settlement visa for my wife and child. Previously my wife had been here in FLR(M) later due to personal reasons she is in India for last 2.5 years and they are comming back again.
      Any Idea with the application form question? the popup option doent have father option and its mandatory to select one option from there? Please advise!

      Thanks

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      Re: FLR(M) - SoftBreakup - reunion from outside UK

      Post by rajinlondon » Tue Apr 02, 2019 1:38 pm

      Hi Again, awaiting this reply, just had my second thought that if am using the correct application?
      Can some one help me if I am filling in the correct application for my child (and wife), have explained my situation in the first messages at the top!

      Please help, thanks
      Raj

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      Re: FLR(M) - SoftBreakup - reunion from outside UK

      Post by rajinlondon » Tue Apr 02, 2019 2:56 pm

      Further more, at this link, https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... -Notes.pdf
      at 7.5 it states the answer such as Father/mother's sister/brother....
      7.5 Please provide full details about the person you will be staying with
      The full details should include their name, address, nationality and your exact relationship to them, e.g. father/mother’s sister/friend etc...
      Is it just the website being crappy? Or the guidance is not correct? Please throw some light!

      Thanks
      Raj

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      Re: FLR(M) - SoftBreakup - reunion from outside UK

      Post by rajinlondon » Wed Apr 03, 2019 1:16 pm

      :cry:
      Crying for help, also didnt get any reply from below contacts
      Telephone: 03333 445 675
      Monday to Friday, 9am to 5pm
      Find out about call charges
      Text: ‘VISA’ to 07537 416 944
      visa@we-are-digital.co.uk
      any helps? regarding my previous posts this week?

      Thanks
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      Re: FLR(M) - SoftBreakup - reunion from outside UK

      Post by seagul » Wed Apr 03, 2019 10:36 pm

      You should accept cookies as a lot of websites in now a days ask cookies which usually present and operate well the website. Maybe without accepting them you facing such problem.
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      Re: FLR(M) - SoftBreakup - reunion from outside UK

      Post by rajinlondon » Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:34 pm

      seagul wrote:
      Wed Apr 03, 2019 10:36 pm
      You should accept cookies as a lot of websites in now a days ask cookies which usually present and operate well the website. Maybe without accepting them you facing such problem.
      The site https://www.visa4uk.fco.gov.uk/account/Login doesnt enforce a cookie, and this is the message in their site.

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      I dont think it is a cookie issue tbh, because the Home Office may not have had a similar situation before, they didnt think of it.
      The situation as in the child born outside UK when father just had ILR and later when the father became British, is trying to apply settlement visa for the child.
      But anyhow, thanks for the reply seagul, am going to select the option 'Friend' and explain this situation in the 'Additional Information' section (that am the father living in UK, and since no option as 'Father' is available, am selecting 'Friend'). I hope there is no other better way to handle that situation!

      Thanks
      Raj

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      Re: FLR(M) - SoftBreakup - reunion from outside UK

      Post by rajinlondon » Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:44 pm

      Also it seems I should submit https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... -08-18.pdf form for my Wife and
      https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... -11-18.pdf for my child.

      How and when to submit these two VAF4A forms?
      Should this appendix be filled and scanned at the VFS offices in London after Biometric appointment in India?
      I assume it from this thread immigration-for-family-members/uk-spous ... 76546.html
      Or may be I should ask this question there

      Thanks
      Raj

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