UK visit visa for spouse(Pakistani)

[knewBee]

Context:

1) My wife just failed the Life skills A-1 test, with very little eduction its hard for her to pass the test on her own, my idea was to get her visit visa here and prepare her for test here and then go back to apply for spouse visa rather visit visa - i could also get her to pass the test here in UK and go back to Pakistan to apply for spouse visa?



Confusion:

2) I'm rather confused to hear that UK visitor visa is refused 95% of the time if a non EU partner (housewife) apply for visitor visa..has anyone had similar visa refused and if yes what was reason for refusal? what happened?

3) I'll (British husband) ideally be apply for her (Pakistani national) visit visa from UK online - is this possible?

4) Can someone advise on best course of action or if anyone have been in similar situation what did you do and what was the outcome.

Thank you for taking time to read this, I look forward to hear back from all you great ppl on any of the 4 parts you can

[seagul]

Visit visa will more likely be refused because on application form she will have to say married to you and coming to live with you. Therefore, visa officer more likely will assume that she won't leave. Only the best solution to pass English test then apply for spouse visa. There should be very good English learning centres in Pakistan.

[knewBee]

Visit visa will more likely be refused because on application form she will have to say married to you and coming to live with you. Therefore, visa officer more likely will assume that she won't leave. Only the best solution to pass English test then apply for spouse visa. There should be very good English learning centres in Pakistan.

Hey thanks for taking time to respond.
What can I do to prove that she will return? what kinda evidence is needed?

[seagul]

Visit visa will more likely be refused because on application form she will have to say married to you and coming to live with you. Therefore, visa officer more likely will assume that she won't leave. Only the best solution to pass English test then apply for spouse visa. There should be very good English learning centres in Pakistan.

Hey thanks for taking time to respond.
What can I do to prove that she will return? what kinda evidence is needed?

Property & savings in her own name/access, good job/business, etc.

[knewBee]

Visit visa will more likely be refused because on application form she will have to say married to you and coming to live with you. Therefore, visa officer more likely will assume that she won't leave. Only the best solution to pass English test then apply for spouse visa. There should be very good English learning centres in Pakistan.

Hey thanks for taking time to respond.
What can I do to prove that she will return? what kinda evidence is needed?

Property & savings in her own name/access, good job/business, etc.

Thanks for your advice..i'm going to see if anyone in similar situation and the outcome etc...i mean there is 5% hope ... still

[knewBee]

Visit visa will more likely be refused because on application form she will have to say married to you and coming to live with you. Therefore, visa officer more likely will assume that she won't leave. Only the best solution to pass English test then apply for spouse visa. There should be very good English learning centres in Pakistan.

Hey thanks for taking time to respond.
What can I do to prove that she will return? what kinda evidence is needed?

Property & savings in her own name/access, good job/business, etc.

What will be supporting evidence for, or what do I need to provide to prove a

1)Good job (does it have to be good job? what is good job? )
2)Property ownership
3)Business ownership...

[seagul]

Visit visa will more likely be refused because on application form she will have to say married to you and coming to live with you. Therefore, visa officer more likely will assume that she won't leave. Only the best solution to pass English test then apply for spouse visa. There should be very good English learning centres in Pakistan.

Hey thanks for taking time to respond.
What can I do to prove that she will return? what kinda evidence is needed?

Property & savings in her own name/access, good job/business, etc.

What will be supporting evidence for, or what do I need to provide to prove a

1)Good job (does it have to be good job? what is good job? )
2)Property ownership
3)Business ownership...

1. Payslips, income tax documents, bank statement
2. Property registry/ownership documents
3. Company registration, tax documents, business bank statements.

Good job means a job which giving handsome wages for which the person will definitely return.

[Frontier Mole]

There is zero hope of gaining a visit visa, forget the 5% hope.
Given the circumstances and the general approach that will be taken in dealing with her application there is an impossible barrier to climb over. The ECO will not be convinced that she will return, good job or not, property or not, business or not. The bottom line is simple, once she is in the UK there is little hope of removal if she overstays.

So given she is married to you and the intent for her will be to settle in the UK then it is a madness to grant a visit visa. It just will not happen.

[knewBee]

There is zero hope of gaining a visit visa, forget the 5% hope.
Given the circumstances and the general approach that will be taken in dealing with her application there is an impossible barrier to climb over. The ECO will not be convinced that she will return, good job or not, property or not, business or not. The bottom line is simple, once she is in the UK there is little hope of removal if she overstays.

So given she is married to you and the intent for her will be to settle in the UK then it is a madness to grant a visit visa. It just will not happen.

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That is true that long term goal is to settle down but not with visit visa because with visit visa she won't get her nationality in next 5 years..and i want to get that asap for that reason i'll try to get her pass the test asap and apply for the spouse visa.

The aim is to get her here to prepare for the test, and go back and apply for spouse visa.
The problem is that where she is now i'm the only way she can prepare for the test and preparing her over internet/whatsapp/skype is not helpful, doing it that way will God knows how long take and how many times to redo the test (she lack confidence, never been out of hometown, being bullied at school she couldn't go to school) and I got back to UK after our marriage shortly like in 10 days time..it is painful to wait ..not as much as for me but she is suffering that I cannot stand..so very very frustrating situation where doctor has advised spending time is very important for her health..its now been 6 months that we have been apart...it hurts..i never thought it will be so hard to get her here...i would have done things differently..

Has anyone been in same situation and had got visit visa?

Thank you for responding i do really appreciate that..

[knewBee]

I have full time job here and i am saving my holidays just to go and pick her up...i cannot get more holidays to prepare her, take her to test centre and do all the process ...as it seem she will need a lot of preparation and will need to do the text several time before pass...only solution would be to leave my job and go there ...but that is not an easy option where i'm the only bread winner at the family of 6 dependents ..

[seagul]

Although getting visit visa will be difficult but i am disagreed that it is impossible to get with zero percent chance because if the forum has been search then we will see a lot members in similar circumstances successfully got the visit visa. Mostly if visit visa is applied after spouse visa rejection then it automatically leads to refusal but op hasn't yet applied for spouse visa. Again in my opinion if your partner has strong ties with her country then still she can succeed.

[Frontier Mole]

Can you post those examples please.

[seagul]

Search facility at the top hand right corner will enable you to search those cases.

[Frontier Mole]

You claimed they were there ..... quote them....

I haven’t found any, so I am doubtful of your claim.

[seagul]

You claimed they were there ..... quote them....

I haven’t found any, so I am doubtful of your claim.

You are showing great curiosity so morally you are obliged to do a deep search as I don't have much privileges not even be able to send/receive message. But your claim of 0% chance of getting visit visa is 100% incorrect. Enjoy the bank holiday.

[secret.simon]

Calm down, everybody. The idea of the forum is meant to give advice and ideally the justification for the particular advice being given. It is possible to disagree with others on the course of action to take. It is ours to advise and then it is up to the OP on what advice s/he wants to pursue.

I am inclined to agree with FrontierMole that a visit visa application is almost certainly going to be declined.

The requirement of a visit visa is specifically for the applicant to be visiting and the applicant is expressly forbidden from residing in the UK in the guise of a visit visa. The idea of a visit visa being issued for six months is that the applicant visit for a few weeks within those six months, not that s/he reside in the UK for those six months. Given that the applicant's spouse resides in the UK, the ECO will likely conclude that the applicant will reside in the UK, not visit.

The circumstances that a spouse of a British citizen is issued a visit visa will likely be where the British citizen himself is settled outside the UK and also visiting with the non-British spouse.

Assuming that the OP is a British citizen, he could move to another EEA member-state and help his wife move there under EU law. Keeping Brexit in mind though, it may well be a case of moving there for life (or a very long time).