British citizenship good character

[shoala2000]

When filling in the British citizenship form do I have to declare my old traffic violation points which have cleared out after 4 years? And what about non endorsed traffic penalty charges like driving in bus route and driving without MOT?

[xavieryves]

First you need to determine whether your traffic offences were Fixed Penalty Notices or Penalty Charge Notices. For instance, driving in a bus lane is a PCN and does not need to be declared. Driving without MOT is a FPN and needs to be declared.

The naturalisation guide asks for all FPNs to be declared regardless of when the offence was, whether the endorsement is spent or not. My advice is call the DVLA and see what they have on record, if it's over 6 yrs, they likely won't have it. So declaring anything under 6 years is a must in my opinion.

[Djsuccess]

First you need to determine whether your traffic offences were Fixed Penalty Notices or Penalty Charge Notices. For instance, driving in a bus lane is a PCN and does not need to be declared. Driving without MOT is a FPN and needs to be declared.

The naturalisation guide asks for all FPNs to be declared regardless of when the offence was, whether the endorsement is spent or not. My advice is call the DVLA and see what they have on record, if it's over 6 yrs, they likely won't have it. So declaring anything under 6 years is a must in my opinion.

You are right about what the guide says. it is FPNs and not PCNs. But it took me a long time to know the diffenrence between FPN and PCN. So I declared bus lane and parking tickets in all the applications I made where they asked for previous penalties and I mentioned that they were PCNs. My principle is, if you are not sure, just declare it. It will not cause any harm. Not declaring what should be declared is however a big issue

[shoala2000]

I am applying for citizenship February 2020
I am worried about a road traffic offence I had on november 2018 ,if it will affect my application
I was stopped by a policeman, while driving my husband, car without having a third party insurance
I was given 300 penalty fine and 6 points on my provisional driving licence
I paid the fine and the penalty points were moved to my full driving licence on February 2019

[xavieryves]

I am applying for citizenship February 2020
I am worried about a road traffic offence I had on november 2018 ,if it will affect my application
I was stopped by a policeman, while driving my husband, car without having a third party insurance
I was given 300 penalty fine and 6 points on my provisional driving licence
I paid the fine and the penalty points were moved to my full driving licence on February 2019

You need to start your own thread. The forum rules don't allow tagging on someone else's thread and your case is also very different from OP as your endorsement is not old but very much still active. You'll be better advised in your own thread.

[CR001]

I am applying for citizenship February 2020
I am worried about a road traffic offence I had on november 2018 ,if it will affect my application
I was stopped by a policeman, while driving my husband, car without having a third party insurance
I was given 300 penalty fine and 6 points on my provisional driving licence
I paid the fine and the penalty points were moved to my full driving licence on February 2019

You need to start your own thread. The forum rules don't allow tagging on someone else's thread and your case is also very different from OP as your endorsement is not old but very much still active. You'll be better advised in your own thread.

This is the user thread!!!

[CR001]

I am applying for citizenship February 2020
I am worried about a road traffic offence I had on november 2018 ,if it will affect my application
I was stopped by a policeman, while driving my husband, car without having a third party insurance
I was given 300 penalty fine and 6 points on my provisional driving licence
I paid the fine and the penalty points were moved to my full driving licence on February 2019

Why have you registered a second username to ask the same questions again??? This is NOT permitted on the forum!! I strongly suggest you read the forum rules and also choose which username you wish to keep otherwise both will be banned.

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[shoala2000]

Hi sorry for the inconvenience, I am new to this forum,I did register under user name shoala 2000
As both me and my husband have questions about citizenship application he wrote his question and you kindly did answer it
I wrote my question under your reply and it was not accepted,so my husband did register with you under user name jfairooz ,
And put my question there

My account is shoala2000
My husband account is jfairooz
I want to keep my account shoala2000 as I need my question to be answered, I am worried about my application

My husband also would like to keep his account jfairooz as he has further questions

Thank you

[xavieryves]

Sorry the 2 completely different cases in the same thread threw me off and I didn't realise it was under the same user name. Makes sense that it's two different people.

Here's what the Guide AN says about FPNs under Criminality;
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... ooklet.pdf

Fixed penalty notices (such as speeding or parking tickets) must be disclosed,
although will not normally be taken into account unless:
• you have failed to pay and there were criminal proceedings as a result
• you received 3 or more fixed penalty notices at any level
• in the past 3 years you received 2 or more fixed penalty notices, at least one
of which was at the upper levels (fine of £200 or more).

If this is your only offence in the last 3 years and you have maximum 1 other FPNs since your stay in the UK then there shouldn't be a negative impact on your application as long as you declare it. Very important that this is your only offence in last 3 years and that you have 0 other or 1 at most at any other time. The highlighted points are the ones you need to consider. Also read the linked Guide AN. There are users on this forum who have had successful outcomes with similar issues and would be best placed to give a first hand account but unfortunately they aren't forthcoming perhaps because they haven't a need for this forum anymore. I suggest you type in Fixed Penalty Points at the top of this forum and search for other forum users' experience with similar issue.

[shoala2000]

Hi,
Thank you
This is the only FPN I have ever since I arrived to london

What does it mean as it does not specify the period in years:
You have 3 or more FPN at any level

[xavieryves]

Hi,
Thank you
This is the only FPN I have ever since I arrived to london

What does it mean as it does not specify the period in years:
You have 3 or more FPN at any level

No it doesn't say the period in years for that particular point that's why it's safe to interpret it as during your entire duration of being in the UK i.e. since you came to stay in the UK. In any case, since you say you only have that one FPN, this shouldn't be of concern to you.

[shoala2000]

Thank you very much
Some body talled me that driving without insurance is a serious offence and even a single notice will lead to refusal of your application

[shoala2000]

Hi
I am worried ,and want to make sure I do not have problem with my citizenship application

having a single 6 point FPN and fine 300 pound paid due to driving without insurance ,will affect the application

As some wrote and said that driving without insurance Is a serious offence and leads to application rejection

[alterhase58]

Here is the reference to driving offences in the AN Guide - see page 20:
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... ooklet.pdf
Also here the link to the good character guidance for case workers although it doesn't much talk about traffic offences:
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... idance.pdf
Not sure this helps and wouldn't like to second-guess how UKVI will view this is.

[xavieryves]

Hi
I am worried ,and want to make sure I do not have problem with my citizenship application

having a single 6 point FPN and fine 300 pound paid due to driving without insurance ,will affect the application

As some wrote and said that driving without insurance Is a serious offence and leads to application rejection

The Guide AN would seem to suggest that 1 upper level FPN ever would not be an issue but according to this user's experience (linked below) you're right to worry! Especially if you were driving alone without having a full licence as well. Might be best for you to wait until your endorsement is spent before applying. In the meantime continue to do your research for similar first hand experiences on this forum by typing Fixed Penalty Notices at the top which is how I found this case.

british-citizenship/citizenship-applica ... l#p1712261

[shoala2000]

Thank you
I was driving with my husband who had his full driver licence since 2014 ,in his car,so I was not alone ,the car had L label

[shoala2000]

Hi ,I will apply for my citizenship soon I have one road traffic offence as 18 month a go I received 6 fixed point on my driving licence and paid £300 for driving without third party insurance without going to court

This is the only incident I have

Will this affect my application

[CR001]

Topics merged!!!

This question was already answered when you asked in December. The advice doesn't change.

[shoala2000]

Hi , among the background checks that home office does will home office check -my bank account
- if I am a refuge seeked asylum after being stateless and have indifinnite leave to remain and legible to apply for naturalization, but made arrangement to travel 4 weeks annually to meet my daughter in iran as she will fly to iran from bahrain our home town and I fly from london , adding that I am not irani i am of bahraini nationality as well is my daughter, and as i can not go to bahrain but choosed their for meeting my daughter because the cost is cheap for her and me.will these trips make home office doubt my good character

[Zerubbabel]

Hi , among the background checks that home office does will home office check -my bank account
- if I am a refuge seeked asylum after being stateless and have indifinnite leave to remain and legible to apply for naturalization, but made arrangement to travel 4 weeks annually to meet my daughter in iran as she will fly to iran from bahrain our home town and I fly from london , adding that I am not irani i am of bahraini nationality as well is my daughter, and as i can not go to bahrain but choosed their for meeting my daughter because the cost is cheap for her and me.will these trips make home office doubt my good character

Why would they?

And the Home Office doesn't have access to the details of your bank accounts and your spending.