ESC

Click the "allow" button if you want to receive important news and updates from immigrationboards.com


Immigrationboards.com: Immigration, work visa and work permit discussion board

Welcome to immigrationboards.com!

Login Register Do not show

Document check for ILR (SET M)

Only for queries regarding Indefinite Leave to Remain (ILR). Please use the EU Settlement Scheme forum for queries about settled status under Appendix EU

Moderators: Casa, archigabe, CR001, push, JAJ, ca.funke, Amber, zimba, vinny, Obie, EUsmileWEallsmile, batleykhan, meself2, geriatrix, John, ChetanOjha

Locked
nevsito
Newbie
Posts: 36
Joined: Wed May 01, 2019 1:45 pm
England

Bank refuses to sign statements

Post by nevsito » Fri Aug 28, 2020 4:01 pm

Good afternoon

My wife and I are about to apply for ILR (SET M), for her, and have a concern over the required 6 months bank statements. NatWest stopped sending statements to us in the post in 2019, so I requested a statement covering the time frame to be posted to us. This has arrived but does not bear much resemblance to the original statements they used to mail.

I went into a branch to requested a statement be printed which also covers the date of my most recent payslip. This was done but on standard paper and is in black and white. They stamped the first page, but refused to stamp any others, nor would they sign the statements or provide a cover letter confirming authenticity. From what I have read on these forums all statement pages need to be stamped, or a letter needs to be provided. Can anyone advise if what I have is sufficient or the likelihood of it being accepted given the bank's refusal to assist further?

I have been able to switch the statements back to being paper and posted and received the most recent months OK, but I do not know if this will help or hinder the application- can someone advise?

Thank you and stay safe
Mr Voice

User avatar
zimba
Moderator
Posts: 23075
Joined: Mon Aug 11, 2014 6:13 pm
Location: UK
Mood:
United Kingdom

Re: Bank refuses to sign statements

Post by zimba » Fri Aug 28, 2020 5:23 pm

Upload digital statements. It should be fine
Advice is given based on my personal research and experience only. Do NOT contact me via private message for immigration advice

nevsito
Newbie
Posts: 36
Joined: Wed May 01, 2019 1:45 pm
England

Re: Bank refuses to sign statements

Post by nevsito » Fri Aug 28, 2020 5:43 pm

Thank you Zimba- agreed they should be fine and they look perfectly acceptable- but I'm slightly paranoid given the requirements

Cheers,
Nev

User avatar
CULLINAN
Respected Guru
Posts: 11124
Joined: Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:51 pm
Pakistan

Re: Bank refuses to sign statements

Post by CULLINAN » Fri Aug 28, 2020 10:50 pm

nevsito wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 5:43 pm
Digital copies are fine as Zimba said.
2) electronic bank statements which are either accompanied by a letter from the bank on its headed stationery confirming that the documents are authentic or which bear the official stamp of the issuing bank on every page.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/immigration ... d-evidence
Personal opinion only, not to be mistaken for legal advice. Please DO NOT PM me for immigration advice. Love for All, Hatred for None.

nevsito
Newbie
Posts: 36
Joined: Wed May 01, 2019 1:45 pm
England

Re: Bank refuses to sign statements

Post by nevsito » Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:52 am

Thank you Cullinan

The digital statements have the NatWest logo at the top so I take it this counts as an official stamp? I had it in my had I needed an ink stamp on every printed page that I would then upload to the HO!

Nev

vinny
Moderator
Posts: 33343
Joined: Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:58 pm

Re: Bank refuses to sign statements

Post by vinny » Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:39 am

Is a Bank logo is equivalent to an official stamp? I think you may be right about requiring the Bank’s official ink stamp on every printed page, if there is no letter on bank headed stationery confirming that the electronic bank statements are authentic.

But, in view of 39B, is it reasonable for the UKVI to impose these requirements on a third party?

Perhaps they can determine a saved online pdf statement as being from the bank?
This is not intended to be legal or professional advice in any jurisdiction. Please click on any given links for further information. Refer to the source of any quotes.
We do not inherit the Earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.

User avatar
CULLINAN
Respected Guru
Posts: 11124
Joined: Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:51 pm
Pakistan

Re: Bank refuses to sign statements

Post by CULLINAN » Sat Aug 29, 2020 12:24 pm

Yes as vinny pointed out 39B, with the new UKVCAS system, where no originals are needed, everything is scanned, I believe, the online bank statements bearing the official bank logo and look like originals are fine.
Personal opinion only, not to be mistaken for legal advice. Please DO NOT PM me for immigration advice. Love for All, Hatred for None.

nevsito
Newbie
Posts: 36
Joined: Wed May 01, 2019 1:45 pm
England

Re: Bank refuses to sign statements

Post by nevsito » Sat Aug 29, 2020 12:43 pm

Thank you Vinny & Cullinan. I have the following:-

1) Online PDF statements covering the time frame required, in a different format to the posted statements, but still bearing the logo, addresses, issuing bank details, and other relevant information
2) Statements printed in the bank, covering the same time frame, but with the first page only being ink-stamped

It seems worthwhile to attempt to get all pages of the bank printed statement stamped, but if this is still met with refusals and they are not able to write a letter of authenticity, I would plan to submit both sets of documents above, along with a covering letter- does this sound like a good approach?

Kind regards
Nev

User avatar
seagul
Diamond Member
Posts: 10201
Joined: Thu Nov 12, 2015 11:23 am
Mood:
United Kingdom

Re: Bank refuses to sign statements

Post by seagul » Sat Aug 29, 2020 2:26 pm

nevsito wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 12:43 pm


1) Online PDF statements covering the time frame required, in a different format to the posted statements, but still bearing the logo, addresses, issuing bank details, and other relevant information
These statements if aren't pacifically marked as "online copy" then will be fine. Also all the official guidance seems of never been bothered to get synched with UKVCAS's guidance.
The opinion expressed as above is neither a professional advice nor contesting/competing to other member's opinion/advice.

nevsito
Newbie
Posts: 36
Joined: Wed May 01, 2019 1:45 pm
England

Re: Bank refuses to sign statements

Post by nevsito » Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:26 pm

Thanks seagul

Thankfully I went to a different branch of the bank today and the statement was printed, and stamped and signed on all pages without question. So I believe we should be all good now

Thanks to all for the advice

Nev

nevsito
Newbie
Posts: 36
Joined: Wed May 01, 2019 1:45 pm
England

Document check for ILR (SET M)

Post by nevsito » Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:34 pm

Good evening

My wife and I are about to apply for ILR on the SET M route and wanted to quickly check the co-habitation documents required- the application requests 6 letters/documents to evidence this, and we have the following:-

- 3 council tax letters from March 2018, 2019, & 2020
- 2 utility bills from October 2019 & July 2020
- 1 bank statement from June 2018

All have both our names listed as addressees.

Is this sufficient or is it recommended to send more? I'm also conscious that the first council tax letter is almost beyond the 30 month time frame- is this likely to be an issue?

Kind regards
Nev

User avatar
CR001
Moderator
Posts: 88763
Joined: Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:55 pm
Location: London
Mood:
South Africa

Re: Document check for ILR (SET M)

Post by CR001 » Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:36 pm

Your cohabitation evidence needs to be from 3 to 6 difference sources, spread evenly for every 3 to 4 months.
Char (CR001 not Casa)
In life you cannot press the Backspace button!!
Please DO NOT send me a PM for immigration advice. I reserve the right to ignore the PM and not respond.

nevsito
Newbie
Posts: 36
Joined: Wed May 01, 2019 1:45 pm
England

Re: Document check for ILR (SET M)

Post by nevsito » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:15 pm

Thank you- we can source other documents but only have 3 types available. Final document check for the application - we will submit the below:-

Co-habitation:-

- March 2018 - Council Tax
- July 2018 - Bank Statement
- Dec 2018 - Bank Statement
- March 2019 - Council Tax
- July 2019 - Energy Bill
- October 2019 - Energy Bill
- March 2020 - Council Tax
- July 2020 - Energy Bill

Financial:-

- Previous 6 months payslips
- Previous 6 months bank statement, printed in branch, each page stamped and signed
- Signed letter from employer HR confirming employment, salary, start date, permanent employment
- Signed letter from employer Payroll confirming payslip authenticity

English Language:-

- Degree certificate
- UK NARIC letter confirming English level and validity of degree for English language requirement

Property:-

- Mortgage statement confirming myself as property owner
- Signed letter for permission for my spouse, (the applicant), to reside with me
- Mortgage deeds confirming property ownership

Misc:-

- Applicant's passports with all stamped pages printed
- Sponsor's passport for evidencing British citizenship
- Marriage certificate
- Current Biometric Residency permit
- Signed family declaration

Can anyone see any problems with this?

Kind regards
Nev

Locked