Set (O) ILR application: Question on should I wait for IDV app for biometrics?

[anonvtic]

I am currently filling out the Set (O) application form for ILR under the Global Talent route.

There is a question which is titled:

When did you first enter the UK?
(Required)
This is the date you entered the UK when the period of stay you are basing this application on started.

Now, I am basing this application under the GTV route, but combining the time spent on a Tier 2 general visa (immediately prior to switching into my current GTV). My Tier 2 BRP start date is: 12 September 2019.

However, I was in the UK well before that. I switched into Tier 2 visa from the Tier 4 doctorate extension scheme visa (Tier 4 DES) within the UK. After obtaining the T4 DES, I had travelled out of the UK & returned on 22 March 2019 (on the T4 DES). I had switched into T4 DES within the UK in Feb 2019. Prior to that, I was on a Tier 4 student visa that was issued in June 2014 in India, and my very first arrival in the UK would be 29 August 2016 on the T4 student visa.

So, given this information, what would be the correct date to fill in for the above question on the Set (O) form?

[anonvtic]

I am currently filling out my Set (O) ILR application form under the global talent route. My initial GTV endorsement was by the Royal Academy of Engineering under the exceptional promise category.

There is currently a question:

How is your employment or self-employment in the UK related to your specialist field or the prize you have won?

with a free-form text field with 500 character limit.

I am not sure of what am I expected to write here? Any guidance shall be much appreciated.

[anonvtic]

I am currently filling out my Set (O) ILR appliction under the global talent route.

There is a question

Have you previously lived in a country outside the UK including your country of birth?

So, I should not include details of living in the UK (8 years), but include India, my country of birth (24 years from birth to completion of college education), right?

[anonvtic]

I am currently filling out form Set (O) for my ILR under the global talent route.

There is a question:

Details of your time spent outside the UK and Crown Dependencies

• Which countries did you visit or travel through when absent from the UK and Crown Dependencies?

Type the name of a country; use the arrow keys to navigate and 'enter' to select one.
You will be able to add additional details of time spent outside the UK after you click 'Save and continue'.

• When did you leave the UK and Crown Dependencies?

(Required)
Enter date in the format DD MM YYYY

• When did you return to the UK and Crown Dependencies?

(Required)
Enter date in the format DD MM YYYY

• What was the reason for this time spent outside the UK and Crown Dependencies?

Provide reasons, including if you were travelling through, for each country you spent time in during this period of absence

I had a 178 day travel to India. Departed the UK on 12 November 2020, and returned to the UK on 09 May 2021. Will this be any problem for the ILR?

The reason I gave was: "Visited parents in India on holiday. Had to extend stay in India and work from India due to coronavirus-related health concerns amid global pandemic, during which there were severe restrictions on international travel. Returned to the UK via Bahrain in May 2021."

I returned via Bahrain to avoid the hotel quarantine, since India was on the UK's red list. In the dropdown menu for this question, there is option to select only one country. Should I offer further explanation about the 10 day stay in Bahrain? Since only one country can be chosen for this trip, should I create a duplicate entry for this trip with Bahrain as the selection for the same travel dates? I thought that will be confusing.

Appreciate your suggestions and feedback on the information I entered here for my scenario.

[CR001]

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[anonvtic]

Ok. There are 4 separate questions now in this single thread (since my posts got merged together).

Appreciate your guidance on each of them.

[anonvtic]

Gentle bump on this.

Here's my UK visa/travel history:

• Tier 4 student visa issued in India in July 2014. First arrived in the UK T4 student visa on 29 September 2014

• on 03 Feb 2019, switched from T4 to T4 DES (doctorate extension scheme) within the UK. Travelled on T4 DES and returned to the UK on 22 March 2019.

• On 12 Sep 2019, switched from T4 DES to Tier 2 General visa within the UK.

• On 04 Sep 2020, switched from T2 General Visa to Global Talent Visa within the UK. Travelled outside the UK on personal reasons for 178 days on the GTV. Returned to the UK on 09 May 2021

Now, applying for ILR on the basis of the GTV with 3 year eligibility period, which includes the time spent on Tier 2 visa from 12 Sep 2019.

What date should I use for answering the question "When did you first enter the UK?"? I shall appreciate any support from the moderators.

[zimba]

The answer to that question is not important. UKVI will not use that answer to calculate your qualifying period. Your qualifying period starts from the date your Tier 2 visa was granted initially. I answered this like 3 times just today on separate threads in this forum. Why not search the forum before bumping your post ??

[anonvtic]

The answer to that question is not important. UKVI will not use that answer to calculate your qualifying period. Your qualifying period starts from the date your Tier 2 visa was granted initially. I answered this like 3 times just today on separate threads in this forum. Why not search the forum before bumping your post ??

Hi Zimba,

I went through the recent threads, but could not find a direct reference or your answers to this entry-date question. Apologies.

For this question, can I probably say 20 April 2019, when I returned to the UK on a T4 DES visa, which is my most recent arrival date to the UK before my eligibility clock began (12 Sep 2019, Tier 2 BRP issue date)?

Of course, it is not my very first date of arrival in the UK, and hence, quite confused.

[zimba]

As I said it does not matter. Put any date

[anonvtic]

As I said it does not matter. Put any date

Alright, thank you. I shall put the first entry date immediately prior to the beginning of the T2 start date.

[anonvtic]

I have submitted my Set (O) application for ILR under the global talent category. I switched to global talent from Tier 2 visa within the UK, and had submitted biometrics at a UKVCAS service centre (Croydon).

My question is:

"Are Set (O) applicants eligible for submitting their biometrics via the IDV app? If so, is it worthwhile to wait for an invite to use the app?"

[anonvtic]

Can the moderators please delete all earlier posts in this thread (except the very last question about the IDV app)? The older questions add to the noise, and detracts people from easily reading and replying to my current pressing query.

[CR001]

Can the moderators please delete all earlier posts in this thread (except the very last question about the IDV app)? The older questions add to the noise, and detracts people from easily reading and replying to my current pressing query.

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Everyone can see your most recent query. People choose whether to answer to not.

[anonvtic]

Understood. However, at my express request, can you please delete the old posts?

An equivalent analogy is when you have to review and mark an extremely verbose essay whose title doesn't match even the content, except for some relevant paragraph embedded in the 140th page among 300 pages of dense gibberish.

When considering human factors, it is a well-understood scientific fact that it is easier for people to focus if they see just one relevant question that matches the subject line. This philosophy is what Stack Overflow adopts, for instance.

I request you to please delete old posts in this thread which haven't been answered, and are no longer relevant (but only serve to add needless cognitive burden to those potentially willing to engage with the most relevant question).

[CR001]

Understood. However, at my express request, can you please delete the old posts?

I request you to please delete old posts in this thread which haven't been answered, and are no longer relevant (but only serve to add needless cognitive burden to those potentially willing to engage with the most relevant question).

No, they will not be deleted.

[zimba]

Can the moderators please delete all earlier posts in this thread (except the very last question about the IDV app)? The older questions add to the noise, and detracts people from easily reading and replying to my current pressing query.

People are not at your service here. You will get an answer when you get one.
Your application queries will be merged into one topic to maintain history. So you do not need to repeat your immigration history over and over again and we do not have to moderate large number of new posts.

[zimba]

I have submitted my Set (O) application for ILR under the global talent category. I switched to global talent from Tier 2 visa within the UK, and had submitted biometrics at a UKVCAS service centre (Croydon).

My question is:

"Are Set (O) applicants eligible for submitting their biometrics via the IDV app? If so, is it worthwhile to wait for an invite to use the app?"

IDV app eligibility has NOTHING to do with your visa route. UKVI will determine if they can reuse your biometrics from previous applications and will notify you if your are eligible for it.

[anonvtic]

Can the moderators please delete all earlier posts in this thread (except the very last question about the IDV app)? The older questions add to the noise, and detracts people from easily reading and replying to my current pressing query.

People are not at your service here. You will get an answer when you get one.
Your application queries will be merged into one topic to maintain history. So you do not need to repeat your immigration history over and over again and we do not have to moderate large number of new posts.

Understood. And it is a fairly sensible policy that those who post questions aren't necessarily entitled to get a response. Most internet forums operate on this principle, including hugely successful Q & A sites such as StackExchange/Stack Overflow and quora. I already am aware of such basic expectations before posting here.

Doesn't a part of the moderation responsibility include deleting posts that do not convey much value, and merely add to the verbosity of the thread? Of course, it is worthwhile to keep an old answered post for posterity to help newcomers who may arrive at such threads through online searches, but it is rather meaningless to retain old unanswered posts, which don't even match the title of the thread, and which merely serve to add to the verbiage.

[Ticktack]

Can the moderators please delete all earlier posts in this thread (except the very last question about the IDV app)? The older questions add to the noise, and detracts people from easily reading and replying to my current pressing query.

People are not at your service here. You will get an answer when you get one.
Your application queries will be merged into one topic to maintain history. So you do not need to repeat your immigration history over and over again and we do not have to moderate large number of new posts.

Understood. And it is a fairly sensible policy that those who post questions aren't necessarily entitled to get a response. Most internet forums operate on this principle, including hugely successful Q & A sites such as StackExchange/Stack Overflow and quora. I already am aware of such basic expectations before posting here.

Doesn't a part of the moderation responsibility include deleting posts that do not convey much value, and merely add to the verbosity of the thread? Of course, it is worthwhile to keep an old answered post for posterity to help newcomers who may arrive at such threads through online searches, but it is rather meaningless to retain old unanswered posts, which don't even match the title of the thread, and which merely serve to add to the verbiage.

A wise man once to me that "you stoop to conquer". Fighting or arguing with moderators on their forum, that has been very active for over 10 years would get you no where.
You either abide by their rules of engagement, or you might stop getting meaningful responses to real problems when they do arrive.
I'm not saying that there's a blacklist, but hey!

You can't tell a person how to run their home.

[anonvtic]

Can the moderators please delete all earlier posts in this thread (except the very last question about the IDV app)? The older questions add to the noise, and detracts people from easily reading and replying to my current pressing query.

People are not at your service here. You will get an answer when you get one.
Your application queries will be merged into one topic to maintain history. So you do not need to repeat your immigration history over and over again and we do not have to moderate large number of new posts.

Understood. And it is a fairly sensible policy that those who post questions aren't necessarily entitled to get a response. Most internet forums operate on this principle, including hugely successful Q & A sites such as StackExchange/Stack Overflow and quora. I already am aware of such basic expectations before posting here.

Doesn't a part of the moderation responsibility include deleting posts that do not convey much value, and merely add to the verbosity of the thread? Of course, it is worthwhile to keep an old answered post for posterity to help newcomers who may arrive at such threads through online searches, but it is rather meaningless to retain old unanswered posts, which don't even match the title of the thread, and which merely serve to add to the verbiage.

A wise man once to me that "you stoop to conquer". Fighting or arguing with moderators on their forum, that has been very active for over 10 years would get you no where.
You either abide by their rules of engagement, or you might stop getting meaningful responses to real problems when they do arrive.
I'm not saying that there's a blacklist, but hey!

You can't tell a person how to run their home.

Makes sense. Thank you.

[anonvtic]

This morning, I received notification of my ILR approval via email. The BRP card shall be dispatched and received within 7 working days.

[Ticktack]

This morning, I received notification of my ILR approval via email. The BRP card shall be dispatched and received within 7 working days.

Congratulations!!

[AmazonianX]

This morning, I received notification of my ILR approval via email. The BRP card shall be dispatched and received within 7 working days.

Congratulations, do update when your BRP is delivered.

[anonvtic]

This morning, I received notification of my ILR approval via email. The BRP card shall be dispatched and received within 7 working days.

Congratulations, do update when your BRP is delivered.

Yes. Received my BRP today (22 Aug 2022). ILR start date is 19 Aug 2022. BRP expiry date is, of course, 31 Dec 2024 (when the UK is scheduled to move to a fully digital immigration status platform for all).