Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

[littlejunkie]

Hello,
I came in ireland in 2023 September with my husband who is an european national i applied my eutr 1 got stamp 4 eufam in august 2024 but today I received a letter from the minister stating to submit employment documents of me and my husband both of our original passports and children passports and all the renting and utilities bills since august 2024. I just wanna know if this is normal because i already have the resident permit till 2029 and how long they are going to take to return me the passport.
Thank u.

The Stamp 4 Eufam card is conditional based on EU National exercising EU Treaty Rights. So EU Treaty Rights Division can review anytime. Few people received similar letter through email, mostly if they contacted them after getting Stamp 4 Eufam permission.

[Angel99]

Hi everyone,

I’m a non-EU national who grew up in Ireland—moved here at age 5 and held a Stamp 4 through my parents, who are now naturalised Irish citizens.

In 2020 I met my partner (an EU citizen). We moved to the Netherlands in 2022 so she could do a master’s, and I’ve been working there as an engineer for the past three years on a Dutch Stamp 4 EUFAM linked to her.

We’re now back in Ireland (arrived March 2025) because she’s expecting. I’ve just received a job offer due to start 1 July 2025, and she’s been offered a place on a master’s here beginning this September. She’s currently working on a short-term contract as an opera singer, and we have substantial savings.

Question:
If I submit my EU Treaty Rights (EUTR1A) application within the next week—with all supporting documents ready—am I likely to receive the temporary Stamp 4 letter before 1 July, so I can begin the new job on time?

(I only need to pop back to the Netherlands briefly to return my former employer’s laptop and badge.)

Thanks in advance for any insights!

Hi,

You could receive the temporary stamp 4 within 4 weeks or more. Depending on the documents you are submitting and timing.

If you are sure your Netherlands RC hasn't been cancelled already ( Normally it's done when you register in another EU country or during your deregistration they cancelled your card) you can travel with your wife there and back. However don't go alone incase they have already cancelled it you will have an issue on arrival in NL, your wife will have to fly there. But if she's accompanying you and you are travelling within EU they have to issue you a visa or entry stamp on arrival if you need one.

Thanks for the tip! I submitted my application and actually received both my acknowledgment letter and temporary Stamp 4 letter within 5 days. I had previous residency here, so I was able to apply for the temporary Stamp 4 online.

I’m going on holiday to Spain for 2.5 weeks at the end of the month, so hopefully my IRP will be ready by the time I get back or at least before I return to Immigration in Dublin.

I also returned briefly to the Netherlands last weekend, and since I’m still registered there, my Dutch residence card hasn’t been cancelled yet. I had no issues travelling in or out.

For reference:
I submitted my application on 26 May, and I received both the acknowledgment and temporary Stamp 4 letter on 30 May. I’ll update you all once I get my IRP!

Don't forget since you have been approved temporary stamp 4 meaning your application is in the next phase, they can communicate with the Dutch authorities which is centralised nowadays and you will have an issue in NL and cancel your residency there. This can affect your Dutch residence card too. Don't forget in your EUTR form you wrote down your Dutch info plus when applying for PPSN you will have to provide your previous EU tax number/social security number. You are a non EU citizen and can't hold 2 EU residency in Ireland( Unless if you were in Schengen and had EU-permanent residence card).

Deregister in Nederlands since your new residence is Ireland.

All the best.

[Angel99]

I’m already in the state why do I need travel insurance?

It is not required if EU National is exercising EU Treaty Rights through Employment. I have confirmation that if EU National is employed no medical insurance is asked. There is no new law.

Stop spreading false information. Health insurance is required for first time registration for even stamp 4 for Irish spouses including stamp 4 EUfam. Visit ISD page..

https://www.irishimmigration.ie/registe ... ts/#stamp4

[ashubby]

Please guys
I NEED CLERIFICATION ABOUT THIS

Type C Visa Fee Exemption - Who Is Exempt?
Under the Irish Visa Office policy, both qualifying and permitted family members are exempt from visa fees if the visa is for joining the EU citizen exercising Treaty Rights.
* This includes durable (de facto) partners who are applying under the Join Family - EU/EEA category.
So even though you are a permitted family member (not qualifying), you are still exempt from paying the visa fee when applying under this EU route - as long as you:
• Are applying to join your EU citizen partner
• Are submitting your documents with proof of the durable relationship

[Angel99]

Please guys
I NEED CLERIFICATION ABOUT THIS

Type C Visa Fee Exemption - Who Is Exempt?
Under the Irish Visa Office policy, both qualifying and permitted family members are exempt from visa fees if the visa is for joining the EU citizen exercising Treaty Rights.
* This includes durable (de facto) partners who are applying under the Join Family - EU/EEA category.
So even though you are a permitted family member (not qualifying), you are still exempt from paying the visa fee when applying under this EU route - as long as you:
• Are applying to join your EU citizen partner
• Are submitting your documents with proof of the durable relationship

If the visa application from a ‘permitted family member’ is approved, the visa fee will be refunded.

[ashubby]

Please guys
I NEED CLERIFICATION ABOUT THIS

Type C Visa Fee Exemption - Who Is Exempt?
Under the Irish Visa Office policy, both qualifying and permitted family members are exempt from visa fees if the visa is for joining the EU citizen exercising Treaty Rights.
* This includes durable (de facto) partners who are applying under the Join Family - EU/EEA category.
So even though you are a permitted family member (not qualifying), you are still exempt from paying the visa fee when applying under this EU route - as long as you:
• Are applying to join your EU citizen partner
• Are submitting your documents with proof of the durable relationship
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If the visa application from a ‘permitted family member’ is approved, the visa fee will be refunded.
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Thanks @Angel99
Means its a must to get the payment done then when the visa is approved, the visa fee will be refunded.

[Angel99]

Please guys
I NEED CLERIFICATION ABOUT THIS

Type C Visa Fee Exemption - Who Is Exempt?
Under the Irish Visa Office policy, both qualifying and permitted family members are exempt from visa fees if the visa is for joining the EU citizen exercising Treaty Rights.
* This includes durable (de facto) partners who are applying under the Join Family - EU/EEA category.
So even though you are a permitted family member (not qualifying), you are still exempt from paying the visa fee when applying under this EU route - as long as you:
• Are applying to join your EU citizen partner
• Are submitting your documents with proof of the durable relationship

If the visa application from a ‘permitted family member’ is approved, the visa fee will be refunded.
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Thanks @Angel99
Means its a must to get the payment done then when the visa is approved, the visa fee will be refunded.
[/quote]

Exactly.

[littlejunkie]

I’m already in the state why do I need travel insurance?

It is not required if EU National is exercising EU Treaty Rights through Employment. I have confirmation that if EU National is employed no medical insurance is asked. There is no new law.

Stop spreading false information. Health insurance is required for first time registration for even stamp 4 for Irish spouses including stamp 4 EUfam. Visit ISD page..

https://www.irishimmigration.ie/registe ... ts/#stamp4

Contact EU Treaty Rights and they will give u the same reply as me.

[littlejunkie]

I’m already in the state why do I need travel insurance?

It is not required if EU National is exercising EU Treaty Rights through Employment. I have confirmation that if EU National is employed no medical insurance is asked. There is no new law.

Stop spreading false information. Health insurance is required for first time registration for even stamp 4 for Irish spouses including stamp 4 EUfam. Visit ISD page..

https://www.irishimmigration.ie/registe ... ts/#stamp4

The website was last updated on 31 March 2025. I know many people who registered at Burgh Quay after that. No one was asked for Health Insurance. So don't say I'm giving wrong information.

[Angel99]

I’m already in the state why do I need travel insurance?

It is not required if EU National is exercising EU Treaty Rights through Employment. I have confirmation that if EU National is employed no medical insurance is asked. There is no new law.

Stop spreading false information. Health insurance is required for first time registration for even stamp 4 for Irish spouses including stamp 4 EUfam. Visit ISD page..

https://www.irishimmigration.ie/registe ... ts/#stamp4

The website was last updated on 31 March 2025. I know many people who registered at Burgh Quay after that. No one was asked for Health Insurance. So don't say I'm giving wrong information.

For your information someone was asked for health insurance recently after given an appointment and posted it here and what you see on their website is current. 31st March 2025 information is what stands until they update their website again. You clearly don't know what you are talking about.


***Anyone who has to register for the first time should follow what's on the ISD website****

[ciaobellaciao]

It's always best to bring extra documents, because every officer might be different. I was not asked during my appointment on 3 June, but I still brought my policy document and a letter from my husband's employer saying that I will be covered during my stay in Ireland. I wouldn't take a chance because it's for a long term stay permit.

On a side note, my IRP card arrived today (within 3 days of appointment) despite the officer telling me it would take 3 weeks. Ireland delivered Now I'm waiting for my next letter for EUFAM and the card *fingers crossed*

[undercat]

Hi everyone,

I'm an EU citizen; my spouse (non-visa required, non-EU country) has a provisional passport instead of a normal passport, because of the law in her country that prevents naturalized citizens from holding a normal passport when they leave abroad for more than 10 years. It's a non-biometric passport that is valid for 1 year, and is extended by the consulate each year.

We've received confirmation from the Irish Department of Justice that this passport is valid for entering Ireland and no visa is required. We are planning to apply for EUTR1A.

I have 4 questions, hope someone could share what they know:

1. When an IRP (Stamp 4) is issued to a de-facto spouse of an EU national under EU Treaty Rights, for how long is the first IRP issued generally?

2. When she receives her IPR, will its expiration date be limited by her current passport's expiration date?

3. In general, do you need to renew the IPR if your passport is renewed?

4. Do they even accept non-biometric passports? I assume yes, because they have confirmed that such passport is accepted on the border and allows visa-free entry, but all the info about Residence Cards always mentions "biometric passport" in the list of documents. For example, to apply for Stamp 4 via EUTR1A, and to renew it at a later stage, a "Biometric page of your current passport" is required. I am wondering if this actually required a biometric passport (the one with a electronic chip logo on the cover), or by "Biometric page" they mean the page with the photo, names, etc.

The ISD website says:

ISD will grant your non-EEA family member up to 5 years’ residence. This may be less if their passport is due to expire within the next 5 years or if your intended stay in the State is for a shorter period.

At the same time irishimmigration.ie FAQ page says:

No, your permission is not linked to the expiration date on your passport.

However, the latter is in "Attending a First Time Registration Appointment" section, so maybe it's about the permission to register?