Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

[littlejunkie]

Hello,
I came in ireland in 2023 September with my husband who is an european national i applied my eutr 1 got stamp 4 eufam in august 2024 but today I received a letter from the minister stating to submit employment documents of me and my husband both of our original passports and children passports and all the renting and utilities bills since august 2024. I just wanna know if this is normal because i already have the resident permit till 2029 and how long they are going to take to return me the passport.
Thank u.

The Stamp 4 Eufam card is conditional based on EU National exercising EU Treaty Rights. So EU Treaty Rights Division can review anytime. Few people received similar letter through email, mostly if they contacted them after getting Stamp 4 Eufam permission.

[Angel99]

Hi everyone,

I’m a non-EU national who grew up in Ireland—moved here at age 5 and held a Stamp 4 through my parents, who are now naturalised Irish citizens.

In 2020 I met my partner (an EU citizen). We moved to the Netherlands in 2022 so she could do a master’s, and I’ve been working there as an engineer for the past three years on a Dutch Stamp 4 EUFAM linked to her.

We’re now back in Ireland (arrived March 2025) because she’s expecting. I’ve just received a job offer due to start 1 July 2025, and she’s been offered a place on a master’s here beginning this September. She’s currently working on a short-term contract as an opera singer, and we have substantial savings.

Question:
If I submit my EU Treaty Rights (EUTR1A) application within the next week—with all supporting documents ready—am I likely to receive the temporary Stamp 4 letter before 1 July, so I can begin the new job on time?

(I only need to pop back to the Netherlands briefly to return my former employer’s laptop and badge.)

Thanks in advance for any insights!

Hi,

You could receive the temporary stamp 4 within 4 weeks or more. Depending on the documents you are submitting and timing.

If you are sure your Netherlands RC hasn't been cancelled already ( Normally it's done when you register in another EU country or during your deregistration they cancelled your card) you can travel with your wife there and back. However don't go alone incase they have already cancelled it you will have an issue on arrival in NL, your wife will have to fly there. But if she's accompanying you and you are travelling within EU they have to issue you a visa or entry stamp on arrival if you need one.

Thanks for the tip! I submitted my application and actually received both my acknowledgment letter and temporary Stamp 4 letter within 5 days. I had previous residency here, so I was able to apply for the temporary Stamp 4 online.

I’m going on holiday to Spain for 2.5 weeks at the end of the month, so hopefully my IRP will be ready by the time I get back or at least before I return to Immigration in Dublin.

I also returned briefly to the Netherlands last weekend, and since I’m still registered there, my Dutch residence card hasn’t been cancelled yet. I had no issues travelling in or out.

For reference:
I submitted my application on 26 May, and I received both the acknowledgment and temporary Stamp 4 letter on 30 May. I’ll update you all once I get my IRP!

Don't forget since you have been approved temporary stamp 4 meaning your application is in the next phase, they can communicate with the Dutch authorities which is centralised nowadays and you will have an issue in NL and cancel your residency there. This can affect your Dutch residence card too. Don't forget in your EUTR form you wrote down your Dutch info plus when applying for PPSN you will have to provide your previous EU tax number/social security number. You are a non EU citizen and can't hold 2 EU residency in Ireland( Unless if you were in Schengen and had EU-permanent residence card).

Deregister in Nederlands since your new residence is Ireland.

All the best.

[Angel99]

I’m already in the state why do I need travel insurance?

It is not required if EU National is exercising EU Treaty Rights through Employment. I have confirmation that if EU National is employed no medical insurance is asked. There is no new law.

Stop spreading false information. Health insurance is required for first time registration for even stamp 4 for Irish spouses including stamp 4 EUfam. Visit ISD page..

https://www.irishimmigration.ie/registe ... ts/#stamp4

[ashubby]

Please guys
I NEED CLERIFICATION ABOUT THIS

Type C Visa Fee Exemption - Who Is Exempt?
Under the Irish Visa Office policy, both qualifying and permitted family members are exempt from visa fees if the visa is for joining the EU citizen exercising Treaty Rights.
* This includes durable (de facto) partners who are applying under the Join Family - EU/EEA category.
So even though you are a permitted family member (not qualifying), you are still exempt from paying the visa fee when applying under this EU route - as long as you:
• Are applying to join your EU citizen partner
• Are submitting your documents with proof of the durable relationship

[Angel99]

Please guys
I NEED CLERIFICATION ABOUT THIS

Type C Visa Fee Exemption - Who Is Exempt?
Under the Irish Visa Office policy, both qualifying and permitted family members are exempt from visa fees if the visa is for joining the EU citizen exercising Treaty Rights.
* This includes durable (de facto) partners who are applying under the Join Family - EU/EEA category.
So even though you are a permitted family member (not qualifying), you are still exempt from paying the visa fee when applying under this EU route - as long as you:
• Are applying to join your EU citizen partner
• Are submitting your documents with proof of the durable relationship

If the visa application from a ‘permitted family member’ is approved, the visa fee will be refunded.

[ashubby]

Please guys
I NEED CLERIFICATION ABOUT THIS

Type C Visa Fee Exemption - Who Is Exempt?
Under the Irish Visa Office policy, both qualifying and permitted family members are exempt from visa fees if the visa is for joining the EU citizen exercising Treaty Rights.
* This includes durable (de facto) partners who are applying under the Join Family - EU/EEA category.
So even though you are a permitted family member (not qualifying), you are still exempt from paying the visa fee when applying under this EU route - as long as you:
• Are applying to join your EU citizen partner
• Are submitting your documents with proof of the durable relationship
[/quote]

If the visa application from a ‘permitted family member’ is approved, the visa fee will be refunded.
[/quote]

Thanks @Angel99
Means its a must to get the payment done then when the visa is approved, the visa fee will be refunded.

[Angel99]

Please guys
I NEED CLERIFICATION ABOUT THIS

Type C Visa Fee Exemption - Who Is Exempt?
Under the Irish Visa Office policy, both qualifying and permitted family members are exempt from visa fees if the visa is for joining the EU citizen exercising Treaty Rights.
* This includes durable (de facto) partners who are applying under the Join Family - EU/EEA category.
So even though you are a permitted family member (not qualifying), you are still exempt from paying the visa fee when applying under this EU route - as long as you:
• Are applying to join your EU citizen partner
• Are submitting your documents with proof of the durable relationship

If the visa application from a ‘permitted family member’ is approved, the visa fee will be refunded.
[/quote]

Thanks @Angel99
Means its a must to get the payment done then when the visa is approved, the visa fee will be refunded.
[/quote]

Exactly.

[littlejunkie]

I’m already in the state why do I need travel insurance?

It is not required if EU National is exercising EU Treaty Rights through Employment. I have confirmation that if EU National is employed no medical insurance is asked. There is no new law.

Stop spreading false information. Health insurance is required for first time registration for even stamp 4 for Irish spouses including stamp 4 EUfam. Visit ISD page..

https://www.irishimmigration.ie/registe ... ts/#stamp4

Contact EU Treaty Rights and they will give u the same reply as me.

[littlejunkie]

I’m already in the state why do I need travel insurance?

It is not required if EU National is exercising EU Treaty Rights through Employment. I have confirmation that if EU National is employed no medical insurance is asked. There is no new law.

Stop spreading false information. Health insurance is required for first time registration for even stamp 4 for Irish spouses including stamp 4 EUfam. Visit ISD page..

https://www.irishimmigration.ie/registe ... ts/#stamp4

The website was last updated on 31 March 2025. I know many people who registered at Burgh Quay after that. No one was asked for Health Insurance. So don't say I'm giving wrong information.

[Angel99]

I’m already in the state why do I need travel insurance?

It is not required if EU National is exercising EU Treaty Rights through Employment. I have confirmation that if EU National is employed no medical insurance is asked. There is no new law.

Stop spreading false information. Health insurance is required for first time registration for even stamp 4 for Irish spouses including stamp 4 EUfam. Visit ISD page..

https://www.irishimmigration.ie/registe ... ts/#stamp4

The website was last updated on 31 March 2025. I know many people who registered at Burgh Quay after that. No one was asked for Health Insurance. So don't say I'm giving wrong information.

For your information someone was asked for health insurance recently after given an appointment and posted it here and what you see on their website is current. 31st March 2025 information is what stands until they update their website again. You clearly don't know what you are talking about.


***Anyone who has to register for the first time should follow what's on the ISD website****

[ciaobellaciao]

It's always best to bring extra documents, because every officer might be different. I was not asked during my appointment on 3 June, but I still brought my policy document and a letter from my husband's employer saying that I will be covered during my stay in Ireland. I wouldn't take a chance because it's for a long term stay permit.

On a side note, my IRP card arrived today (within 3 days of appointment) despite the officer telling me it would take 3 weeks. Ireland delivered Now I'm waiting for my next letter for EUFAM and the card *fingers crossed*

[undercat]

Hi everyone,

I'm an EU citizen; my spouse (non-visa required, non-EU country) has a provisional passport instead of a normal passport, because of the law in her country that prevents naturalized citizens from holding a normal passport when they leave abroad for more than 10 years. It's a non-biometric passport that is valid for 1 year, and is extended by the consulate each year.

We've received confirmation from the Irish Department of Justice that this passport is valid for entering Ireland and no visa is required. We are planning to apply for EUTR1A.

I have 4 questions, hope someone could share what they know:

1. When an IRP (Stamp 4) is issued to a de-facto spouse of an EU national under EU Treaty Rights, for how long is the first IRP issued generally?

2. When she receives her IPR, will its expiration date be limited by her current passport's expiration date?

3. In general, do you need to renew the IPR if your passport is renewed?

4. Do they even accept non-biometric passports? I assume yes, because they have confirmed that such passport is accepted on the border and allows visa-free entry, but all the info about Residence Cards always mentions "biometric passport" in the list of documents. For example, to apply for Stamp 4 via EUTR1A, and to renew it at a later stage, a "Biometric page of your current passport" is required. I am wondering if this actually required a biometric passport (the one with a electronic chip logo on the cover), or by "Biometric page" they mean the page with the photo, names, etc.

The ISD website says:

ISD will grant your non-EEA family member up to 5 years’ residence. This may be less if their passport is due to expire within the next 5 years or if your intended stay in the State is for a shorter period.

At the same time irishimmigration.ie FAQ page says:

No, your permission is not linked to the expiration date on your passport.

However, the latter is in "Attending a First Time Registration Appointment" section, so maybe it's about the permission to register?

[Angel99]

@undercat

Hi,

* Stamp 4EUFam permission is issued for 5 years but can be limited to the work contract/studies of your partner if shorter.
*The IRP will be valid with your passport. Your permission is different.
* You just have to update customer care with your new passport data page if you haven't used all your current permission.
*If they confirm the passport is accepted for visa and at the airport immigration I don't see why they won't accept inside the state. You can print out a copy of the confirmation and also a letter from the authorities who issued such passport.

[undercat]

@Angel99 thank you very much! It's much clearer now. As I understand now, the permission is not tied to a passport, but given a valid permission, renewing IPR is a relatively simple procedure that can be done online.

[undercat]

Now I'm a bit confused again. This webpage https://www.irishimmigration.ie/registe ... f-ireland/ says:

Your Immigration Residence Permit (IRP) card shows the expiry date of your permission stamp. This tells you when it needs to be renewed.

Looking at IRP cards online, I can see the card expiry date and the date when the permission was issued, but can't see the expiry date of the permission stamp.

[Angel99]

Now I'm a bit confused again. This webpage https://www.irishimmigration.ie/registe ... f-ireland/ says:

Your Immigration Residence Permit (IRP) card shows the expiry date of your permission stamp. This tells you when it needs to be renewed.

Looking at IRP cards online, I can see the card expiry date and the date when the permission was issued, but can't see the expiry date of the permission stamp.

You calculate the expiry for the permission letter from the date it was typed until the last day of whatever years you were given.

[undercat]

You calculate the expiry for the permission letter from the date it was typed until the last day of whatever years you were given.

Sorry, then I think I still don't understand what does the irishimmigration.ie website mean by "Your Immigration Residence Permit (IRP) card shows the expiry date of your permission stamp. This tells you when it needs to be renewed."

[Angel99]

You calculate the expiry for the permission letter from the date it was typed until the last day of whatever years you were given.

Sorry, then I think I still don't understand what does the irishimmigration.ie website mean by "Your Immigration Residence Permit (IRP) card shows the expiry date of your permission stamp. This tells you when it needs to be renewed."

The permission letter (Residency) is issued for 5 years or less. If your passport expires before your permission letter is due, you will receive an IRP which expires with your passport. When you receive a new passport you will use same permission letter with same registration documents to renew your IRP via ISD online portal without applying for EUTR1A all over again. You will just get a new card with your remaining permission allowance written on it.

Incase you are issued permission which is less than 5 years, for example 2 years permission which will reflect on your IRP and your passport has longer validity than that or you renew your passport, you will have to apply for EUTR1A again first for a new permission letter.

Hope it's clear.

[undercat]

The permission letter (Residency) is issued for 5 years or less. If your passport expires before your permission letter is due, you will receive an IRP which expires with your passport. When you receive a new passport you will use same permission letter with same registration documents to renew your IRP via ISD online portal without applying for EUTR1A all over again. You will just get a new card with your remaining permission allowance written on it.

Incase you are issued permission which is less than 5 years, for example 2 years permission which will reflect on your IRP and your passport has longer validity than that or you renew your passport, you will have to apply for EUTR1A again first for a new permission letter.

Hope it's clear.

Absolutely clear, thank you very much!

[castelrink]

Hey everyone, just wanted to share my wife’s EUTR1 application timeline in case it helps anyone who’s also waiting. She submitted the application recently and we haven’t received a final decision yet. Here's how it's going so far:

• 20 January 2025 – Sent all required documents

• 21 January 2025 – Documents were received by Immigration

• 17 February 2025 – Received temporary Stamp 4 (valid until 16 August 2025)

• As of 24 June 2025 – No final decision yet

Will update the thread as soon as we hear back.
If anyone submitted their application around the same time, I’d really appreciate it if you got in touch so we can compare timelines!

[HUSSAIN100]

Application sent 10/03/2025
Still not received anything also no confirmation letter

[HUSSAIN100]

Hey everyone, just wanted to share my wife’s EUTR1 application timeline in case it helps anyone who’s also waiting. She submitted the application recently and we haven’t received a final decision yet. Here's how it's going so far:

• 20 January 2025 – Sent all required documents

• 21 January 2025 – Documents were received by Immigration

• 17 February 2025 – Received temporary Stamp 4 (valid until 16 August 2025)

• As of 24 June 2025 – No final decision yet

Will update the thread as soon as we hear back.
If anyone submitted their application around the same time, I’d really appreciate it if you got in touch so we can compare timelines!

Application sent 10/03/2025
Still not received anything also no confirmation letter

[castelrink]

Hey everyone, just wanted to share my wife’s EUTR1 application timeline in case it helps anyone who’s also waiting. She submitted the application recently and we haven’t received a final decision yet. Here's how it's going so far:

• 20 January 2025 – Sent all required documents

• 21 January 2025 – Documents were received by Immigration

• 17 February 2025 – Received temporary Stamp 4 (valid until 16 August 2025)

• As of 24 June 2025 – No final decision yet

Will update the thread as soon as we hear back.
If anyone submitted their application around the same time, I’d really appreciate it if you got in touch so we can compare timelines!

Application sent 10/03/2025
Still not received anything also no confirmation letter

Thank you very much for your reply, Hussain.

We have contacted a TD, but unfortunately, there’s little that can be done until the six-month period has passed, in our case, that will be on 21 July.

Since your application is taking so long, it might be helpful to try reaching out to support@eutrjustice.cloud.gov.ie, especially if it's a spouse-based application.

Thanks again for sharing your experience, and best of luck, I hope you hear back soon

[jujubeans]

Hey everyone, just wanted to share my EUTR1 application timeline in case it helps anyone who's also waiting. I submitted my application recently and was fortunate to receive my approval relatively quickly. Here's how it went:

27 May 2025 – Sent all required documents
30 May 2025 – Documents were received by Immigration
2 June 2025 – Received temporary approval letter
10 June 2025 – Received full approval
25 June 2025 – Received temporary permit
Expected within next 15 days – Full permit delivery

Total processing time: About 2 weeks from submission to full approval

Still waiting for the postman to deliver my full permit, but should arrive any day now!

[farofa_de_banana]

Hey everyone, just wanted to share my wife’s EUTR1 application timeline in case it helps anyone who’s also waiting. She submitted the application recently and we haven’t received a final decision yet. Here's how it's going so far:

• 20 January 2025 – Sent all required documents

• 21 January 2025 – Documents were received by Immigration

• 17 February 2025 – Received temporary Stamp 4 (valid until 16 August 2025)

• As of 24 June 2025 – No final decision yet

Will update the thread as soon as we hear back.
If anyone submitted their application around the same time, I’d really appreciate it if you got in touch so we can compare timelines!

Our case is similar.

06/02/2025 : sent documents
07/02/2025 : documents received
04/03/2025 : received acknowledgement letter. It asks to send documents but the list is empty. IRP was granted until 06/08/2025

We can see that cases submitted much later were already finished. We asked in the portal regarding this empty list but after months there is no answer.