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New to this - UK citizen and partner options?

Post by Madgrrl » Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:23 pm

Hi,

I was just wanting some advice about our options. I'm a British citizen, my boyfriend has joint NZ/US citizenship and currently resides in Australia. We've been together a year, known each other about 1.5 years and he's currently staying with me on a visitor visa (3 weeks so far). This is his second visit here in a year, last time he stayed 2 months. I know that it's 6 months max in the UK as a visitor and I don't want anything untoward happening with UK immigration so where do we go from here?

I think it would be easier, in practical terms, for him to move here. He can work from home so wouldn't need to look for a new job, at least not right away. He doesn't have a home to sell but I would. However, I do not make £18600 a year. I might do in the future possibly but no guarantees. If we get engaged or married would that make things easier? He's also looking into his heritage as he thinks he might have had a British grandparent or great grandparent so maybe ancestry would be an option?

Other long term possibilities would be me joining him in Australia, or us both going to the US, not sure how that would work though. He's not a fan of NZ (weird I know!) so don't think he's keen on moving back there. I was reading somewhere that partners of Kiwis can only join them in Aus if they've been living there x number of years, which he hasn't.

It's still early days yet but it would be good to know what we can do.

Many thanks for any advice.

MG

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Re: New to this - UK citizen and partner options?

Post by CR001 » Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:34 pm

Madgrrl wrote:Hi,

I was just wanting some advice about our options. I'm a British citizen, my boyfriend has joint NZ/US citizenship and currently resides in Australia. We've been together a year, known each other about 1.5 years and he's currently staying with me on a visitor visa (3 weeks so far). This is his second visit here in a year, last time he stayed 2 months. I know that it's 6 months max in the UK as a visitor and I don't want anything untoward happening with UK immigration so where do we go from here? He cannot apply or switch into any other visa category from within the UK. He would have to leave and apply from his country of residence.

I think it would be easier, in practical terms, for him to move here. He can work from home so wouldn't need to look for a new job, at least not right away. He doesn't have a home to sell but I would. However, I do not make £18600 a year. I might do in the future possibly but no guarantees. If we get engaged or married would that make things easier? He's also looking into his heritage as he thinks he might have had a British grandparent or great grandparent so maybe ancestry would be an option? There is no way to get around the minimum income requirement that YOU have to earn for him to qualify for either a fiance or spouse visa. If he has a British born grandparent, he can come on an Ancestry Visa. He can't come on an Ancestry visa if it is a Great Grandparent though. Ancestry is cheaper and easier to obtain so would be a good option if he qualifies.

Other long term possibilities would be me joining him in Australia, or us both going to the US, not sure how that would work though. He's not a fan of NZ (weird I know!) so don't think he's keen on moving back there. I was reading somewhere that partners of Kiwis can only join them in Aus if they've been living there x number of years, which he hasn't. You would need to ask these questions in the Australia/US forums further down on the main page of the forum.

It's still early days yet but it would be good to know what we can do.

Many thanks for any advice.

MG
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Re: New to this - UK citizen and partner options?

Post by noajthan » Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:44 pm

Madgrrl wrote:Hi,

I was just wanting some advice about our options. I'm a British citizen, my boyfriend has joint NZ/US citizenship and currently resides in Australia. We've been together a year, known each other about 1.5 years and he's currently staying with me on a visitor visa (3 weeks so far). This is his second visit here in a year, last time he stayed 2 months. I know that it's 6 months max in the UK as a visitor and I don't want anything untoward happening with UK immigration so where do we go from here?

I think it would be easier, in practical terms, for him to move here. ...

It's still early days yet but it would be good to know what we can do.

Many thanks for any advice.

MG
Even if you marry you will need to meet the income requirement to bring hubby to UK under UK immigration rules.

If you give up on UK and shoot for US, Australia etc then all well and good (under their rules, whatever they are).

:idea: An alternative way is to marry & then bring hubby to UK via the Surinder Singh route.
This means moving your centre of life to an EU country & living/working there 'for a while'.

As you will then have exercised treaty rights as an EEA national when you finally return to UK you can still then be treated as an EEA national. (You still retain your BC ofcourse).

It means you then operate under the less stringent & less restrictive EU rules;
(for example, with no savings or income requirements).
Viva free movement :!:

If that floats your boat you can search for 'Surinder Singh' postings in this forum.

See also:
http://britcits.blogspot.co.uk/2013/08/ ... tpwww.html

& see here too:
https://www.freemovement.org.uk/surinde ... tion-route
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Re: New to this - UK citizen and partner options?

Post by Madgrrl » Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:56 pm

Thank you very much for your advice :) Will have a read of the links later.

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The £18,600 minimum

Post by Madgrrl » Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:23 pm

Hi,

Just wondering, does the above amount have to come from me alone (as a British citizen), or could my partner contribute as well (assuming he was sponsored by work to be here, or similar?)

Thanks,

MG

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Re: The £18,600 minimum

Post by physicskate » Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:42 am

Madgrrl wrote:Hi,

Just wondering, does the above amount have to come from me alone (as a British citizen), or could my partner contribute as well (assuming he was sponsored by work to be here, or similar?)

Thanks,

MG

His earnings can contribute only if he is already in the UK on another visa and working legally (Tier 4, Tier 2 etc...). I would not count on a Tier 2 General - they are very difficult to get unless you are very highly paid or in a very niche industry.

He can contribute if you meet the requirements through savings - which requires you to have £16,000 + (2.5 x (18,600 - your earnings)).

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Re: The £18,600 minimum

Post by Madgrrl » Thu Nov 19, 2015 12:05 am

Thank you, I was wondering if perhaps his company could sponsor him to come here? They have an office in England and he works remotely anyway so it could perhaps be a possibility.

I imagine savings would have to be per year so it's £18,600 for each year he's here?

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Re: The £18,600 minimum

Post by Wanderer » Thu Nov 19, 2015 2:19 pm

Madgrrl wrote:Thank you, I was wondering if perhaps his company could sponsor him to come here? They have an office in England and he works remotely anyway so it could perhaps be a possibility.

I imagine savings would have to be per year so it's £18,600 for each year he's here?
For T2 ICT sponsorship the local test will need to have been performed to prove no local candidate was suitable, and the company needs to be a licensed sponsor. Also if he is a remote worker I very much doubt he'd be successfully as there seems to be no actual need for the work he does to be performed in UK.

For the savings route £62,500 is required and to have been held in liquid funds for a minimum for six months.
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