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Tier 1 Entrepreneur Extension - Questions/Help

Post by Loky1359 » Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:01 pm

URGENT FRIENDS PLS HELP

Hi,

I'm applying for Tier 1 Entrepreneur Extension and 2 of my staff & both of them have their name different on their birth certificate. It seems like they have got married and changed their surnames. However, they don't have anything to prove their name change. My friend is suggesting to fill a self signed Poll Deed (ideally to be signed in front of a solicitor).

How to deal with this situation? and what would be the right thing to do?

Thanks in advance for people who respond. It will be a true help.

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Re: Tier 1 Entrepreneur Extension - Employee Birth Certificate

Post by zimba » Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:09 pm

Documents that can be used as documentary evidence for a change of name include:

Marriage Certificate
Civil Partnership Certificate
Decree Absolute Certificate
Adoption Certificate
Death Certificate

Do they have UK passports ?
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Re: Tier 1 Entrepreneur Extension - Employee Birth Certificate

Post by marcnath » Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:10 pm

Loky1359 wrote:
Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:01 pm
URGENT FRIENDS PLS HELP

Hi,

I'm applying for Tier 1 Entrepreneur Extension and 2 of my staff & both of them have their name different on their birth certificate. It seems like they have got married and changed their surnames. However, they don't have anything to prove their name change. My friend is suggesting to fill a self signed Poll Deed (ideally to be signed in front of a solicitor).

How to deal with this situation? and what would be the right thing to do?

Thanks in advance for people who respond. It will be a true help.
Don't they have passports ?
Any official documents with their new surnames ?
Do they have their NI certificates ? What is the name on them ?
My comments are in no way meant to be advisory. I have no professional knowledge of immigration. These are based on my own experience, convictions and personal interpretation of publicly available information.

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Re: Tier 1 Entrepreneur Extension - Employee Birth Certificate

Post by Loky1359 » Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:21 pm

Hearty thanks both for your superfast responce.

They may have some sort or correspondence from HMRC. Can it be helpful?
But they both are such lazy cows and it is impossible to get anything from them.
Don't you think Poll Deed is any good?
I have their driving Licence with their present name. Will that be any good?

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Re: Tier 1 Entrepreneur Extension - Employee Birth Certificate

Post by zimba » Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:46 pm

No it will not be acceptable :?
The rules do not care that your employees are lazy. How did you check their 'right to work' when you hired them ???
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Re: Tier 1 Entrepreneur Extension - Employee Birth Certificate

Post by marcnath » Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:18 pm

Loky1359 wrote:
Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:21 pm
Hearty thanks both for your superfast responce.

They may have some sort or correspondence from HMRC. Can it be helpful?
But they both are such lazy cows and it is impossible to get anything from them.
Don't you think Poll Deed is any good?
I have their driving Licence with their present name. Will that be any good?
What correspondence from HMRC is that ? Does it have their NI number ?
It is your responsibility to have collect and check the right documents at the time of hiring.
If you have an official document with their birth names and the NI number, then you can still show that it is the same person and the Birth certificate should be acceptable.
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Re: Tier 1 Entrepreneur Extension - Employee Birth Certificate

Post by sm12 » Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:21 pm

If they have changed their names after marriage, then another option can be used.
The GRO in the UK can provide certified copies of marriage certificates. Just get them to order these or order the same on their behalf.

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/cert ... efault.asp

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Re: Tier 1 Entrepreneur Extension - Employee Birth Certificate

Post by Loky1359 » Wed Oct 25, 2017 2:43 pm

Gents,
Thanks again for your responses.

I manage to get the marriage certificate of this person along with a HMRC document which has her NI number.
I also have the P45 from her previous employer.
Will this be ok?

Kindly help pls.

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Re: Tier 1 Entrepreneur Extension - Employee Birth Certificate

Post by Loky1359 » Wed Oct 25, 2017 2:45 pm

zimba88 wrote:
Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:46 pm
Zimba88,
Thanks again for your responses.

I manage to get the marriage certificate of this person along with a HMRC document which has her NI number.
I also have the P45 from her previous employer.
Will this be ok?

Kindly help pls.

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Re: Tier 1 Entrepreneur Extension - Employee Birth Certificate

Post by marcnath » Wed Oct 25, 2017 2:50 pm

Loky1359 wrote:
Wed Oct 25, 2017 2:45 pm
zimba88 wrote:
Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:46 pm
Zimba88,
Thanks again for your responses.

I manage to get the marriage certificate of this person along with a HMRC document which has her NI number.
I also have the P45 from her previous employer.
Will this be ok?

Kindly help pls.
It should mostly be ok. Send in all the documents with a note explain why the name is different and that it is the same person.
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Salaried Employee wages calculation

Post by Loky1359 » Wed Oct 25, 2017 2:52 pm

Hi everyone,

I have a member of staff who get £22,500 per annum (which makes her gross pay as £1875/month). I believe rules says the hourly pay have to mentioned. She is in a 40 hour contract. How to show this in the application.

she works 160 hours a month and it equates to £11.71875 per hour. eventhough it is true, it looks bit dodgy on the wage slip.

Am I allowed to use her contract to prove she works on salaried basis and is it acceptable?

if not what can be the solution?

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Re: Tier 1 Entrepreneur Extension - Employee Birth Certificate

Post by Loky1359 » Wed Oct 25, 2017 2:54 pm

marcnath wrote:
Wed Oct 25, 2017 2:50 pm
Loky1359 wrote:
Wed Oct 25, 2017 2:45 pm
zimba88 wrote:
Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:46 pm
Thanks Marcnath :)

Is there any other way to be 100% certain about this?

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Re: Tier 1 Entrepreneur Extension - Questions/Help

Post by CR001 » Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:05 pm

Topics Merged (click), kindly keep all your questions on the same application in one topic/thread.
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Re: Tier 1 Entrepreneur Extension - Employee Birth Certificate

Post by marcnath » Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:10 pm

Loky1359 wrote:
Wed Oct 25, 2017 2:54 pm

Thanks Marcnath :)

Is there any other way to be 100% certain about this?
Well, you meet the requirements if you have created the job for a settled worked. As long as you can show it is one and the same person, I can't see why it would not be accepted.

You can never be 100% sure since CW are also human and get things mixed up.

But if you get rejected, it will almost certainly be accepted on AR.

One thing you can do to strengthen your case is to update your payroll and send an updated document showing that you have taken action to correct a mistake you made by using a name for which there was no proof.
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Re: Tier 1 Entrepreneur Extension - Questions/Help

Post by Loky1359 » Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:22 pm

You are a Gem Marcnath. Thanks again.

Just to give an example,

In the Payroll her name is Elizabeth Taylor

Elizabeth Hanson (is what she have on her birth certificate)

she got married to John Taylor and became Elizabeth Taylor.

So Birth certificate and marriage certificate should be ok to prove who she is right?

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Re: Tier 1 Entrepreneur Extension - Questions/Help

Post by Loky1359 » Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:34 pm

Hi All,

Bit urgent as I'm dropping the application tomorrow.

I have a member of staff who is salaried for 22500£ per annum and contracted to 40 hours a week.

Her wageslip dont have hourly rate on it. It just says Basic £1875 gross on it.

How can I claim her as fulltime staff. Can I provide her employment contract? or any other ideas pls.

Please help.

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Re: Tier 1 Entrepreneur Extension - Questions/Help

Post by marcnath » Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:32 pm

Loky1359 wrote:
Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:22 pm
You are a Gem Marcnath. Thanks again.

Just to give an example,

In the Payroll her name is Elizabeth Taylor

Elizabeth Hanson (is what she have on her birth certificate)

she got married to John Taylor and became Elizabeth Taylor.

So Birth certificate and marriage certificate should be ok to prove who she is right?
The one document that it will prove that the person is the same for employment purposes is NI. That is essentially what HMRC uses to link the person and the insurance contributions. So, as long as you can show the same NI number before and after the name change, you should be ok. All other documents are good and additional support but NI is the most definitive.
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Re: Tier 1 Entrepreneur Extension - Questions/Help

Post by marcnath » Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:36 pm

Loky1359 wrote:
Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:34 pm
Hi All,

Bit urgent as I'm dropping the application tomorrow.

I have a member of staff who is salaried for 22500£ per annum and contracted to 40 hours a week.

Her wageslip dont have hourly rate on it. It just says Basic £1875 gross on it.

How can I claim her as fulltime staff. Can I provide her employment contract? or any other ideas pls.

Please help.
There are two things that show the full time.
1) In your FPS, there is often something like "Hours Worked ( A, B, C, D, E ) D - 30 hrs or more". You always inform HMRC one of those 5 letters and D indicates >30 hrs, so full time.
2. The more important one and only one really needed - in the job creation table, you indicate the hourly rate. The CW simply divides the monthly pay by the hourly rate you have specified to check that it meets the full time hours per week or month.
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