delay in citizenship application - applied in 2016

[Captainf]

Applied in Nov 2016. Rang today to get an update the lady on phone said waiting Foreign Agency Report to further process your app as I said the has been said several times before as well, she then said we have requested a fresh one on 13th feb.
While they sent several letters before that your app is being prepared for submission in 2017 and 18.

If the flag attached to your account is truly representing your country of origin, then it is kind of obvious that they are discriminating you based on your country of origin. Pity that the approach followed by the department seems to play a waiting game and keep people waiting indefinitely till either they leave the country or go for legal action...

Yes it does... I do understand your point and it's a valid point that they do discriminate us... I'm awaiting for my FOI file and then going for a legal action..

[Captainf]

Applied in Nov 2016. Rang today to get an update the lady on phone said waiting Foreign Agency Report to further process your app as I said the has been said several times before as well, she then said we have requested a fresh one on 13th feb.
While they sent several letters before that your app is being prepared for submission in 2017 and 18.

If the flag attached to your account is truly representing your country of origin, then it is kind of obvious that they are discriminating you based on your country of origin. Pity that the approach followed by the department seems to play a waiting game and keep people waiting indefinitely till either they leave the country or go for legal action...

Yes it does... I do understand your point and it's a valid point that they do discriminate us... I'm awaiting for my FOI file and then going for a legal action..

My question is for judicial review do I need to hire a solicitor or a barrister?

[Statusquo73]

FOI can be used in the court. In my case after ticking all points they left my case there for a year without touching.
As paddy says. They are hoping that we will leave the country or give up and withdraw the applications

[rockyguy]

Applied in Nov 2016. Rang today to get an update the lady on phone said waiting Foreign Agency Report to further process your app as I said the has been said several times before as well, she then said we have requested a fresh one on 13th feb.
While they sent several letters before that your app is being prepared for submission in 2017 and 18.

If the flag attached to your account is truly representing your country of origin, then it is kind of obvious that they are discriminating you based on your country of origin. Pity that the approach followed by the department seems to play a waiting game and keep people waiting indefinitely till either they leave the country or go for legal action...

Yes it does... I do understand your point and it's a valid point that they do discriminate us... I'm awaiting for my FOI file and then going for a legal action..

My question is for judicial review do I need to hire a solicitor or a barrister?

At this stage we all need a barrister otherwise we are never gonna get a decision. Department is waiting for that and more we delay more time will be wasted.

[Finepaddy]

Hello everybody. Thought you would all like to know that I got my decision today. I have been granted citizenship and I am happy I took
The judicial review case in the end and my solicitor and barrister got leave of the court for me to do judicial review. Then the citizenship department granted my application just as I was told that they would. It has cost me financially and emotionally but I got there. I can get on with my life and my medical career now. I don’t have to worry about my non-eea status anymore. I have the same training opportunity as my Irish and eu colleagues. It was worth it. 3.5k for the legal fees because the court will not a grant Costs against the state because they say that the decision was going to be made anyway and judicial review made no difference. I don’t believe them. If I did not do this I would not have my citizenship now. Hats off to my solicitor. A very clever and experienced lady.

Which court the case went to ?
Thanks

[littlerr]

Hello everybody. Thought you would all like to know that I got my decision today. I have been granted citizenship and I am happy I took
The judicial review case in the end and my solicitor and barrister got leave of the court for me to do judicial review. Then the citizenship department granted my application just as I was told that they would. It has cost me financially and emotionally but I got there. I can get on with my life and my medical career now. I don’t have to worry about my non-eea status anymore. I have the same training opportunity as my Irish and eu colleagues. It was worth it. 3.5k for the legal fees because the court will not a grant Costs against the state because they say that the decision was going to be made anyway and judicial review made no difference. I don’t believe them. If I did not do this I would not have my citizenship now. Hats off to my solicitor. A very clever and experienced lady.

Which court the case went to ?
Thanks

Judicial review always goes to High Court.

[rockyguy]

Hello everybody. Thought you would all like to know that I got my decision today. I have been granted citizenship and I am happy I took
The judicial review case in the end and my solicitor and barrister got leave of the court for me to do judicial review. Then the citizenship department granted my application just as I was told that they would. It has cost me financially and emotionally but I got there. I can get on with my life and my medical career now. I don’t have to worry about my non-eea status anymore. I have the same training opportunity as my Irish and eu colleagues. It was worth it. 3.5k for the legal fees because the court will not a grant Costs against the state because they say that the decision was going to be made anyway and judicial review made no difference. I don’t believe them. If I did not do this I would not have my citizenship now. Hats off to my solicitor. A very clever and experienced lady.

Which court the case went to ?
Thanks

Judicial review always goes to High Court.

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[littlerr]

I have no problem with that. Any person who obtains citizenship in a fraudulent way, or supports any kinds of terrorism, should have their citizenship revoked. I'm not keen on offering any of my taxes to those guys to access free legal aid.

[Finepaddy]

I have no problem with that. Any person who obtains citizenship in a fraudulent way, or supports any kinds of terrorism, should have their citizenship revoked. I'm not keen on offering any of my taxes to those guys to access free legal aid.

I don't think anyone can apply legal Aid in civil cases. Any idea ?

[Paddy_Leprechaun]

I have no problem with that. Any person who obtains citizenship in a fraudulent way, or supports any kinds of terrorism, should have their citizenship revoked. I'm not keen on offering any of my taxes to those guys to access free legal aid.

I agree while it is obviously wrong to use any fraudulent tricks to gain benefit and appropriate action must be taken against them.
But in my opinion, any person facing any convictions or jury hearing must have the right to access free legal aid if they don't have the means to hire a solicitor. What if they were wrongly accused and they could not present their cases properly without any legal aid, which could lead to an unfair decision.
If repeated offenders use state tax money for legal aid every time they are in front of a jury then why discrimination for naturalized citizens???
I could be wrong because these are my opinion based on limited knowledge of the legal system in Ireland, but it appears that someone here in Ireland idealizes and trying to follow Trump style administration and anti-immigrant policy.

[Captainf]

If the flag attached to your account is truly representing your country of origin, then it is kind of obvious that they are discriminating you based on your country of origin. Pity that the approach followed by the department seems to play a waiting game and keep people waiting indefinitely till either they leave the country or go for legal action...

Yes it does... I do understand your point and it's a valid point that they do discriminate us... I'm awaiting for my FOI file and then going for a legal action..

My question is for judicial review do I need to hire a solicitor or a barrister?

At this stage we all need a barrister otherwise we are never gonna get a decision. Department is waiting for that and more we delay more time will be wasted.

Thank you dear.

[Syjem]

Is there any update from the delayed applications? Have you been in touch with the office recently?

[Statusquo73]

I guess no one received a letter from INIS.
Looks like we have tonwaitbSeptenbet

[rockyguy]

I guess no one received a letter from INIS.
Looks like we have tonwaitbSeptenbet

That's true. I was told by the department that my application is submitted to the minister and i should hear something in few weeks time well i dont believe them. I already made an appointment with some well known dublin lawyer in 3 weeks time. If i dont get something before this ceremony i am taking this matter to court.

[Alixlboy]

INIS have clearly started lying. My friend is a solicitor and he said anyone who has to wait for one year or more, can take Inis to court. It would cost around 1500 euro max for the whole process, but I think it s worth it. It is utterly ridiculous and disgraceful the way they are treating people now a days.

[Statusquo73]

It is very strange that they don't send approvals as only 1 month left to ceremony

[thegoodaulleo]

It is very strange that they don't send approvals as only 1 month left to ceremony

I think it is now probably overbooked!

[markem]

For the last ceremony (26/11/2018) the approvals came out around 22/10 or 35 days before the ceremony.

That would mean for ceremony on 29/4/2019 the approvals would be out on 25/3... so still a couple of weeks to wait.

[rockyguy]

For the last ceremony (26/11/2018) the approvals came out around 22/10 or 35 days before the ceremony.

That would mean for ceremony on 29/4/2019 the approvals would be out on 25/3... so still a couple of weeks to wait.

Hi guys!!

I dont see any hope to get approval for this ceremony on 29th. God knows how long more we have to wait to get over this stress. They continuously lying over the phone that application have been submitted to the Minister bla bla. My solicitor advised me to not to contact them.

[RajSingh1]

For the last ceremony (26/11/2018) the approvals came out around 22/10 or 35 days before the ceremony.

That would mean for ceremony on 29/4/2019 the approvals would be out on 25/3... so still a couple of weeks to wait.

Hi guys!!

I dont see any hope to get approval for this ceremony on 29th. God knows how long more we have to wait to get over this stress. They continuously lying over the phone that application have been submitted to the Minister bla bla. My solicitor advised me to not to contact them.

Will the solicitor do anything or will it help in getting a decision. If I don't get a decision from them in the next couple of weeks I will get a solicitor. I applied on 22nd July 2016 it has been nearly 3 years. I don't know what the hell are they doing with my file. I got a copy of my file under FOI and since September 2016 they haven't even touch my file.

[rockyguy]

For the last ceremony (26/11/2018) the approvals came out around 22/10 or 35 days before the ceremony.

That would mean for ceremony on 29/4/2019 the approvals would be out on 25/3... so still a couple of weeks to wait.

Hi guys!!

I dont see any hope to get approval for this ceremony on 29th. God knows how long more we have to wait to get over this stress. They continuously lying over the phone that application have been submitted to the Minister bla bla. My solicitor advised me to not to contact them.

Will the solicitor do anything or will it help in getting a decision. If I don't get a decision from them in the next couple of weeks I will get a solicitor. I applied on 22nd July 2016 it has been nearly 3 years. I don't know what the hell are they doing with my file. I got a copy of my file under FOI and since September 2016 they haven't even touch my file.

Bro solicitor can't do anything unless he/she is not a good player, First of all you have to make sure that your case is 100% strong and genuine. 2nd) you need to hire some barrister who can threat department about the court . He can challenge the department on your behalf and go for Judicial review as far as i know. I have an appointment on 1st of april to some well known lawyer so let's see what they say. I just can't wait anymore. 3 bloody years are more than enough to make a bloody decision.

[Statusquo73]

For the last ceremony (26/11/2018) the approvals came out around 22/10 or 35 days before the ceremony.

That would mean for ceremony on 29/4/2019 the approvals would be out on 25/3... so still a couple of weeks to wait.

Hi guys!!

I dont see any hope to get approval for this ceremony on 29th. God knows how long more we have to wait to get over this stress. They continuously lying over the phone that application have been submitted to the Minister bla bla. My solicitor advised me to not to contact them.

Will the solicitor do anything or will it help in getting a decision. If I don't get a decision from them in the next couple of weeks I will get a solicitor. I applied on 22nd July 2016 it has been nearly 3 years. I don't know what the hell are they doing with my file. I got a copy of my file under FOI and since September 2016 they haven't even touch my file.

Bro solicitor can't do anything unless he/she is not a good player, First of all you have to make sure that your case is 100% strong and genuine. 2nd) you need to hire some barrister who can threat department about the court . He can challenge the department on your behalf and go for Judicial review as far as i know. I have an appointment on 1st of april to some well known lawyer so let's see what they say. I just can't wait anymore. 3 bloody years are more than enough to make a bloody decision.

Keep us updated.
Hopefully you wont need to go to juidical review and you will get your approval letter soon.

[Statusquo73]

Looks like we have no news.
2017 Oct got some approvals on here.

I hope everyone of us will get the approval letter soon.

[rockyguy]

Looks like we have no news.
2017 Oct got some approvals on here.

I hope everyone of us will get the approval letter soon.

Its really devastating that it looks like 2016 Applicants are exempt to get this privilege. I haven't seen anyone got approved who applied in 2016 (including me). We all should do some protest against the department. Collective action is always productive. Otherwise they will delay don't know for how long more. We should exchange our contacts numbers to each other and contact migrant council to discuss our issue.

[littlerr]

Looks like we have no news.
2017 Oct got some approvals on here.

I hope everyone of us will get the approval letter soon.

Its really devastating that it looks like 2016 Applicants are exempt to get this privilege. I haven't seen anyone got approved who applied in 2016 (including me). We all should do some protest against the department. Collective action is always productive. Otherwise they will delay don't know for how long more. We should exchange our contacts numbers to each other and contact migrant council to discuss our issue.

@rockyguy @Statusquo73 Out of curiosity, what are your current statuses? Have they been submitted to the minister, or waiting on final checks, or still on second stage?
If they are waiting on final checks or have been submitted, you should receive the decision before the next ceremony.
If they are still on second stage, I would recommend you to get a lawyer involved.