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ILR after 2 x 3 Years DLR

Post by elmadania1971 » Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:17 pm

hello i am new in this web site needed help, i am applying for ILR within 3 weeks i am running out time as i am really confused my story is i was granted 2 times 3 years DLR my self, wife, and my 4 kids( born in uk) their ages 13,11,9,8 my problem is i cant afford to lodge an application for all of them it will cost me alot. my quation is can I skip my kids and submit only for my self and my wife then i can apply for their naturalization straight away after we are sorted? what do you think guys?

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Re: Successful ILR after 2 x 3 Years DLR

Post by CMOSUK » Sun Feb 04, 2018 8:44 am

elmadania1971 wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:17 pm
hello i am new in this web site needed help, i am applying for ILR within 3 weeks i am running out time as i am really confused my story is i was granted 2 times 3 years DLR my self, wife, and my 4 kids( born in uk) their ages 13,11,9,8 my problem is i cant afford to lodge an application for all of them it will cost me alot. my quation is can I skip my kids and submit only for my self and my wife then i can apply for their naturalization straight away after we are sorted? what do you think guys?

My understanding is, if your children where born in the UK to non British citizens or of settled status you have 2 options:

1. Once you are a British citizen or have settled status you may register your children using form MN1

2. If your children where born in the UK to non British citizens or of settled status, if they have lived the first 10 years of their lives in the UK they may apply under section 1(4) and use form T

My understanding is if using the second option, it will be at UKVI/Home Office discretion to allow it or not, also the child must not have spent more than 90 days outside the UK in each 10 year period.

FORM T guidance

This paragraph has been taken from the MN1 guidance on pages 8-9 titled Entitlement to registration as a British citizen
Entitlement to registration as a British citizen
Children born in the UK
– Section 1(3) and 1(3A) application
Section 1(3) -

A child born in the UK whose parents are not British citizens and
were not settled in the UK will have an entitlement to register when one of their parents become settled in the UK or become British citizens.

Section 1(3A) - A child born in the UK on or after 13 January 2010 whose parents
are not born British citizens and were not settled in the UK will have an entitlement
to register if either parent becomes a member of the UK armed forces.

If a child lives in the United Kingdom for the first 10 years of their life, an application
can be made under section 1(4). A form T should be used for this purpose.

A child born in the United Kingdom who is and has always been stateless may also qualify
on the basis of a period of 5 years residence. Form S3 should be used for this
purpose.

Alternatively, a child born in the UK whose parents are not settled in the
UK and are not applying for settlement of British citizenship may be registered at the discretion of the Home Secretary.
My understanding is 2 of your kids (provided they meet the requirements good character, 90 day rule, etc... ) could register as British citizens even though neither parent has settled status yet.

Again you may apply for ILR 28 days before or within completing 6 years DL and if successful you can use option 1.

I hope this helps.
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Re: Successful ILR after 2 x 3 Years DLR

Post by elmadania1971 » Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:25 pm

Thanks for your prompt reply . Dont you think skipping them would affect my application for ILR, YES actually I know about formT BUT I couldn't raise the money , do I need to fill two application one for my self and one for my wife as she is my dependent or enough to include her with mine? Thanking you guys

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Re: Successful ILR after 2 x 3 Years DLR

Post by CMOSUK » Sun Feb 04, 2018 4:38 pm

elmadania1971 wrote:
Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:25 pm
Thanks for your prompt reply . Dont you think skipping them would affect my application for ILR, YES actually I know about formT BUT I couldn't raise the money , do I need to fill two application one for my self and one for my wife as she is my dependent or enough to include her with mine? Thanking you guys
Sorry i' am failing to understand which form you are referring to?

SET(O)
FLR(DL)

I think you can include your wife (dependant) in one form, so as long as her DL was granted in line with yours and both of you are going to be completing 6 years of DL (minus 28 days).
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Re: Successful ILR after 2 x 3 Years DLR

Post by elmadania1971 » Sun Feb 04, 2018 5:27 pm

Hi again it will be set O. By the way can do a premium if i manage to get an appointment? Thanks my friend.

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Re: Successful ILR after 2 x 3 Years DLR

Post by CMOSUK » Sun Feb 04, 2018 5:30 pm

elmadania1971 wrote:
Sun Feb 04, 2018 5:27 pm
Hi again it will be set O. By the way can do a premium if i manage to get an appointment? Thanks my friend.
With SET(O) yes you can.
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Re: ILR after 2 x 3 Years DLR

Post by CR001 » Sun Feb 04, 2018 5:34 pm

I have split your posts to your own topic. It is considered rude and unfair to members if you tag onto their threads, no matter how 'similar' you think your circumstances are.

See point 12 in the link below.

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Re: ILR after 2 x 3 Years DLR

Post by CMOSUK » Sun Feb 04, 2018 5:42 pm

CR001 wrote:
Sun Feb 04, 2018 5:34 pm
I have split your posts to your own topic. It is considered rude and unfair to members if you tag onto their threads, no matter how 'similar' you think your circumstances are.

See point 12 in the link below.

announcements/read-me-getting-started-t ... 24804.html
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Re: ILR after 2 x 3 Years DLR

Post by elmadania1971 » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:53 pm

CR001 wrote:
Sun Feb 04, 2018 5:34 pm
I have split your posts to your own topic. It is considered rude and unfair to members if you tag onto their threads, no matter how 'similar' you think your circumstances are.

See point 12 in the link below.

announcements/read-me-getting-started-t ... 24804.html
I am so sorry bruv i am new and I didn't know how to use this web site, apologise and thanks for your help

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Re: ILR after 2 x 3 Years DLR

Post by CR001 » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:00 am

elmadania1971 wrote:
Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:53 pm
I am so sorry bruv i am new and I didn't know how to use this web site, apologise and thanks for your help
I am a 'miss' not a 'bruv' :wink:
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Re: ILR after 2 x 3 Years DLR

Post by elmadania1971 » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:14 am

Ok miss, another question if you dont mind plz
For the set O form or DL form, which one is right for my case ? I applied for asylum 1998 after a couple of years my application was refused then in 2009 I made another application for a legacy in 2012 received my first 3 years DLR in 2015 when I went for another 3 years extension I used FLRO APPLICATION the lawyer told me to do so as my 1 first dlr was based on family life because of my 4 kids born in the UK, NOW my question is what form I should use set O or DL THANKING and sorry again miss

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Re: ILR after 2 x 3 Years DLR

Post by CMOSUK » Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:25 am

elmadania1971 wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:14 am
Ok miss, another question if you dont mind plz
For the set O form or DL form, which one is right for my case ? I applied for asylum 1998 after a couple of years my application was refused then in 2009 I made another application for a legacy in 2012 received my first 3 years DLR in 2015 when I went for another 3 years extension I used FLRO APPLICATION the lawyer told me to do so as my 1 first dlr was based on family life because of my 4 kids born in the UK, NOW my question is what form I should use set O or DL THANKING and sorry again miss
When is 2012 did you receive yiur first grant of DL after a refused asylum application?

Technically you are supposed to use form (DL) BUT many members recently have been granted ILR with a similar situation as yours using form SET(O) with the premium service.
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Re: ILR after 2 x 3 Years DLR

Post by elmadania1971 » Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:53 am

Applied asylum 1998 refused 2001. Granted February 2012 then the 2nd dlr was March as I mentioned above we were granted all of us my self wife and 4 kids. Thanks

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Re: ILR after 2 x 3 Years DLR

Post by CMOSUK » Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:16 pm

elmadania1971 wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:53 am
Applied asylum 1998 refused 2001. Granted February 2012 then the 2nd dlr was March as I mentioned above we were granted all of us my self wife and 4 kids. Thanks
The dates are very important for these type of cases, those granted DLR after 9 July 2012 are put on thr FLR (Fp) route and must complete 10 years
(4 x 2.5 years visas). You and others before you that applied using SET(O) come under the transitional Arrangements as you have been GRANTED DLR before the immigration rule changes on and after 9 July 2012.

Make sure to mention dates of grants in your covering letter.
These are my 'views' and 'opinions'.
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Re: ILR after 2 x 3 Years DLR

Post by elmadania1971 » Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:46 pm

CMOSUK wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:16 pm
elmadania1971 wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:53 am
Applied asylum 1998 refused 2001. Granted February 2012 then the 2nd dlr was March as I mentioned above we were granted all of us my self wife and 4 kids. Thanks
The dates are very important for these type of cases, those granted DLR after 9 July 2012 are put on thr FLR (Fp) route and must complete 10 years
(4 x 2.5 years visas). You and others before you that applied using SET(O) come under the transitional Arrangements as you have been GRANTED DLR before the immigration rule changes on and after 9 July 2012.

Make sure to mention dates of grants in your covering letter.
Thank you yes I was granted before July 2012 so you think it's ok to use the set O application. ?

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Re: ILR after 2 x 3 Years DLR

Post by elmadania1971 » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:11 pm

I really appreciate your help guys. I got another question plz which documents I need to supply ? And then is the documents I will be submitting for the last 3 years or 1 years what about the pay slips, bank statements and all kind of proof of address I know I am asking too much i am sorry thanks again for your help.

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Re: ILR after 2 x 3 Years DLR

Post by CMOSUK » Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:40 pm

elmadania1971 wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:11 pm
I really appreciate your help guys. I got another question plz which documents I need to supply ? And then is the documents I will be submitting for the last 3 years or 1 years what about the pay slips, bank statements and all kind of proof of address I know I am asking too much i am sorry thanks again for your help.
Hi,

Have a read at these members threads, you will get a good idea of what documents to submit as they all where granted successfully all based on 6 yeasrs DLR (failed asylum application)

Please note they alm used form SET(O) with the premium service.

luqi2020

azharmahmood

Afrapasse

Muji87

Alz3eem2002

mkhari
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Re: ILR after 2 x 3 Years DLR

Post by elmadania1971 » Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:39 pm

Hi there, i tried to book an appointment but couldn't manage to get it on time, the only dates available is in March and that date will be too late so the only option i have left is to post it thanks my friend.

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Re: ILR after 2 x 3 Years DLR

Post by CMOSUK » Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:26 pm

elmadania1971 wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:39 pm
Hi there, i tried to book an appointment but couldn't manage to get it on time, the only dates available is in March and that date will be too late so the only option i have left is to post it thanks my friend.
Check again at midnight new blocks get released and you may find a cancelled one.

Lots of people will want to try and book before the fee rise in April so it will be busy.
These are my 'views' and 'opinions'.
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Re: ILR after 2 x 3 Years DLR

Post by elmadania1971 » Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:40 pm

CMOSUK wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:26 pm
elmadania1971 wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:39 pm
Hi there, i tried to book an appointment but couldn't manage to get it on time, the only dates available is in March and that date will be too late so the only option i have left is to post it thanks my friend.
Check again at midnight new blocks get released and you may find a cancelled one.

Lots of people will want to try and book before the fee rise in April so it will be busy.
Thanks my friend I will try

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