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Application and payslip confusion.pls help

Post by Appendixmad » Mon Sep 02, 2019 1:35 am

My situation is..

I have a wife in Japan with £36k savings sterling and wish to partly rely on her savings to meet the criteria for a spouse visa.

I have been working with the same company for 11 months. This is a permanent non-salary position where I’m contracted for a minimum of 36 hours but pay will vary each week.

The online application itself requests an answer from the following.
‘Have they been employed by the same employer for the last 6 months’ (yes)
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‘What do they earn’
The same amount continuously, above the financial threshold
The same amount continuously, below the financial threshold
Not the same amount continuously, above the financial threshold
Not the same amount continuously, below the financial threshold


I’m assuming I fall under option 4. But Whatever we seem to select the result is a request of
‘Payslips covering any period of salaried employment (current and previous) in the period of 12months prior to the application.’
As an evidence criteria. I’m abit confused about this and how the guidelines and application itself are worded.

I would assume I would be Category A. 6 months with the same company, can be combined with savings but can only people with fixed amount of salary and non salary apply under this route?

I can only submit the 6 or total 11 statements I have backed up by my contract and employment letter and hope this is where I end up. or would submitting 11 confuse everything and end up being rejected because I haven’t submitted 12 statements?

My specific financial situation is...
(Gross pay, was unemployed for the missing 12th month of sep 2018)
10/2018 £891.75
11/2018 £1555.95
12/2018 £1002.45
1/2019 £1459.60
2/2019. £1130.80
3/2019 £1691.25
4/2019. £1336.00
5/2019. £1540.58
6/2019. £1321.39
7/2019. £1277.55
8/2019. £1615.73

My wife has held 36k sterling in saving for the past 6 months.

Based on my calculations of the past 6 months before tax my earnings would be £17.565 supplemented by my wife’s savings of which £8000 can be contributed. So I’m fairly confident about Category A but the request of 12 statements has created allot of doubt because I don’t know how many to submit. If variable income forces me into Cat B or not. If I should submit 11 and the decision maker will simply make the same calculations I have above or assume I’ve applied for a completely different category and all my evidence is thrown out because it’s not right.

If anyone can enlighten me I would be very grateful. Would love to submit this month but seems this will continue to drag on forever.

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Re: Application and payslip confusion.pls help

Post by seagul » Mon Sep 02, 2019 4:36 am

Since the official guidance is still unchanged which requires only 6 months of payslips and bank statements, therefore, 1st option should be selected which is the only one that asks 6 months of payslips with bank statements while all remaining three mistakenly assume you on category B. Simply select the 1st option and then write a covering letter/clarify the following calculations in additional info section:

Total of last six months wages/6*12= average annualised wages

£1691.25 + £1336.00 + £1540.58 +£1321.39 +£1277.55 +£1615.73/6*12= 8782.5/6*12= £17565

Savings= £36000-16000/2.5= 8000

17565+8000= £25565

NOTE: You seems a none-salaried person whose monthly wages are varying and that is why the above formula was used to get the average annualized wages. Show all above in covering letter to avoid any mistake from the hands of caseworker.
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Re: Application and payslip confusion.pls help

Post by Appendixmad » Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:05 pm

Thank you for your reply. But the question on the application form is phrased as ‘what do they earn?’ My annual gross based on your calculation is £17,565 which is clearly below the financial requirement. This is why we are combining my wife’s cash saving. And like you said my income is variable every month, so it seems to me that the honest answer would be ‘not the same amount continuously, below the financial threshold ‘

Upon switching the answer to 1. ‘The same amount continuously, above the financial threshold’, the evidence requirements including 6 months payslips and bank statements completely disappeared. It requests no financial evidence from myself and only my wife’s savings evidence. Using this method might mean we are unable to upload my financial evidence no?

Would selecting the 4th option and sending 6 slips with a cover letter stating our intention for category A selection be better?

We are really confused and your advice would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Application and payslip confusion.pls help

Post by seagul » Mon Sep 02, 2019 2:37 pm

If the option 1 is not letting the financial documents to add then select option 4 and clarify it in covering letter. But use above calculation in covering letter too.
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Re: Application and payslip confusion.pls help

Post by Appendixmad » Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:29 pm

Thanks again Seagul!

I’ve tried to seek further advice but the immigration I live down the road from won’t let me in the building without an appointment. The number they gave me gives a few unhelpful automated options, when requesting advice on international immigration services I’m told to call the £1.47 a minuet hotline which flat refuse to offer any guidances outside of technical help with the application website. They told me to seek qualified advisors from the .gov website. I called every one listed in my area, half didn’t answer the phone and the rest refused to help without me hiring them....so anyway...

Is it possible to apply on my wife’s behalf? Would this reduce the fee and turn around time? Or this option only for those with already settled status looking to extend?

Do we need to submit an appendix II form?

Thank you

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Re: Application and payslip confusion.pls help

Post by CR001 » Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:41 pm

I’ve tried to seek further advice but the immigration I live down the road from won’t let me in the building without an appointment. The number they gave me gives a few unhelpful automated options, when requesting advice on international immigration services I’m told to call the £1.47 a minuet hotline which flat refuse to offer any guidances outside of technical help with the application website.

UKVI offices have never been in walk in advice service if it is a UKVI office you went to.
Is it possible to apply on my wife’s behalf? Would this reduce the fee and turn around time? Or this option only for those with already settled status looking to extend?
You cannot apply in the UK on your wifes' behalf. She has to apply from her home country and pay the out of country visa fee which is higher.
Do we need to submit an appendix II form?
Yes, if the online form doesn't have the financial requirement section.
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Re: Application and payslip confusion.pls help

Post by seagul » Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:02 pm

Appendixmad wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:29 pm
Thanks again Seagul!

I’ve tried to seek further advice but the immigration I live down the road from won’t let me in the building without an appointment. The number they gave me gives a few unhelpful automated options, when requesting advice on international immigration services I’m told to call the £1.47 a minuet hotline which flat refuse to offer any guidances outside of technical help with the application website. They told me to seek qualified advisors from the .gov website. I called every one listed in my area, half didn’t answer the phone and the rest refused to help without me hiring them....so anyway...
UKVI helpline either dont give immigration advice or provide wrong advice as per member's past experiences. Also a lot of advisors dont give free advice.
Appendixmad wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:29 pm
Is it possible to apply on my wife’s behalf? Would this reduce the fee and turn around time? Or this option only for those with already settled status looking to extend?
You can certainly fill out the application form and upload the documents on her behalf. She will only need to attend the biometrics appointment in her local vfs centre. By doing this application fee and processing time will remain same
Appendixmad wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:29 pm
Do we need to submit an appendix II form?

Thank you
At the moment there is no official confirmation regarding not attaching the appendix II even the link is still active, therefore, as a precaution simply fill it out despite the same questions are being on online form and other members got success without it.
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